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  1. #1521
    Quote Originally Posted by Biske View Post
    Funny that you mention liberals as being the "pro-corporation" ones, because the ones defending a corporation would be the most conservative, pro-capitalism ones, while anyone against a company making profit instead of serving the community would be considered socialist.

    But what's actually going on here is people defending the right of others to spend their money however they want. I mean, unless you're against freedom too, since you're obviously against capitalism based on you being angry at corporations making profit.

    no. it's that I don't believe the most vocal liberals really care about anything they're saying. the ones in power are just as rich as the conservatives(in some cases richer) and threw money around to get in that position.

    They went to private school where their parents paid tons of money to avoid everything they're defending. They’ve never even been exposed to it

    they're full of shit and If it makes them money and fame, they’ll say it

  2. #1522
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    Quote Originally Posted by hablix View Post
    I'm in the same boat. I would gladly be voting and kicking left and right until I'd have to wait 4 hours, but for some reason I haven't been interested enough to even log on since about a week ago. Sad thing is I was closing in on my 6th 90, with a 7th in the wings. Would have had plenty of LFR opportunities. For now, I have put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed. Can't promise I won't be back, maybe for a month to see Siege of Org, but I'm much less excited for this game's future than I was a couple weeks ago.
    Well soon they might give me a free week but i wonder if there will be any on. About all the servers i used to play in from vanilla to CATA is dead now and they are forced to change arena search because of it.

  3. #1523
    Quote Originally Posted by coldrain View Post
    I'm sick of seeing this. it's not that people cannot get them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics
    Oh my God. A company is marketing a product for extra cost. We need to bring this before the Hague immediately!

  4. #1524
    Quote Originally Posted by Biske View Post
    I don't know why people think that corporations are democratic governments, and not, you know, corporations (I'm agreeing with you if my reply is vague).
    I tend to see it as a sort of arrogance on the part of some people. These people just don't understand that any feedback solicited by Blizzard is simply a courtesy and is intended to for Blizzard's benefit.
    Stating an opinion as fact does not make it fact. Opinions are not fact. So don't be stupid and make a fool of yourself by trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

  5. #1525
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    This happened when sparkle pony came to store too. People didnt want to invite to pugs people who bought the pony.

    I didnt really blame them. I wouldnt have wanted those people in pugs as well back then.

    But times have changed. Stuff gets queued up. And LFR doesnt need skills anyway so theres no point wanting certain players to it.
    But hey we can just use blizzard answer to this, "if theres possibility for that in client you are allowed to do that".
    Kicking them for having helmet therefore is allowed and "totally not wrong", because "you can do that in client".
    If people say "too bad, you are allowed to need on agility gear as str class so QQ more" then you can say same to this?

  6. #1526
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    Quote Originally Posted by hablix View Post
    I'm in the same boat. I would gladly be voting and kicking left and right until I'd have to wait 4 hours, but for some reason I haven't been interested enough to even log on since about a week ago..
    You are a sad little person.

    I haven't been kicked yet, I guess they don't want to kick the top player in the raid.

  7. #1527
    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    Too bad you're not intellectually up to the task of understanding when it's appropriate, as you just had demonstrated.
    You stated in your original reply to Poster A that no one cared what they were doing. It obviously affected you enough to post a response to them and therefore you do "care". If you want to snipe we can go for it, but my initial response to you holds true. Sorry about that.

  8. #1528
    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    No one really gives a shit about what you do. People just want blizzard to notice the hate for the ingame store.
    And the best way to do that is by unsubbing.

    Why did they nerf the Cataclysm heroics? People quit in droves.
    Why did they change the Mist dailies? People quit in droves.
    Why did they change the requirements for PvP rewards? People quit in droves.

    If you want something to change, all you need to do is quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturetauren View Post
    I find it funny that people questions the shophaters mentality.

    As i said, i wish i could join you guys to kick these players out but im not giving blizzard anything more.
    Then why do you care what they do to a game you don't play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by traen View Post
    Bringing something from real world to the game is cheating. You did not earn this item.

    No wonder that they were kicked from the game - no one likes to play with cheaters. I would kick them myself if I did lfr with randoms.
    How is it cheating? Blizzard makes the rules, not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    Gz for coming up with that original comment, well done. Have a cookie. You should go post that same comment to every thread you see.
    Gz for coming up with that original comment, well done. Have a cookie. You should go post that same comment to every thread you see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebane View Post
    Yeah of course

    I see how some people feel about the helms, I really do, I complained about it and will never buy one myself, but it just seems petty to pick on people who chose to buy one.
    Totally fair to not like it in a peaceful manner. ^^

  9. #1529
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    It affects my gameplay experience if I spend 40 minutes of my life waiting for LFR to pop, and then someone kicks me for something that has no influence on their performance in relation to mine.
    That's the problem. No matter how many times it's rehashed, people refuse to accept that there is more to this game than stats, that there are reasons other than player performance that affects why players view this as fundamentally wrong. It's not even worth reiterating them because I suspect you will just dismiss them out of hand because they are unrelated to DPS stats.

  10. #1530
    Quote Originally Posted by coldrain View Post
    Maybe this is what it takes for blizzard to finally fix their broken vote kick system. it's affecting the people giving them the most money now. so a fix is in the works, no doubt
    If this kind of thing becomes widespread, what's going to happen is Blizzard is going to make it harder to kick people. So it's going to be harder to kick people who need to be kicked for legitimate gameplay reasons.

    Kicking people for wearing a store bought item is stupid and short sighted and will not achieve whatever puported goals people have for doing it.
    Stating an opinion as fact does not make it fact. Opinions are not fact. So don't be stupid and make a fool of yourself by trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

  11. #1531
    All these personal attacks just because of the store equivalent of Halloween masks and who chooses to buy them.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?

  12. #1532
    Quote Originally Posted by coldrain View Post
    Maybe this is what it takes for blizzard to finally fix their broken vote kick system. it's affecting the people giving them the most money now. so a fix is in the works, no doubt
    All they're going to do is increase your cooldown for every kick attempt. Have fun not being able to kick that tank in 430 dps gear.

  13. #1533
    Quote Originally Posted by fierceangelx View Post
    You are a sad little person.

    I haven't been kicked yet, I guess they don't want to kick the top player in the raid.
    I am a sad little person. Deeply saddened by the path this game is going down, and the company Blizzard is becoming.

  14. #1534
    Quote Originally Posted by hablix View Post
    I'm in the same boat. I would gladly be voting and kicking left and right until I'd have to wait 4 hours, but for some reason I haven't been interested enough to even log on since about a week ago. Sad thing is I was closing in on my 7th 90, with a 8th in the wings. Would have had plenty of LFR opportunities. For now, I have put my money where my mouth is and unsubbed. Can't promise I won't be back, maybe for a month to see Siege of Org, but I'm much less excited for this game's future than I was a couple weeks ago.
    Why didn't you quit years ago when they put the horse in the store? We've seen plenty of mounts in the store since then that weren't obtainable ingame. What makes three helmets so much different?

  15. #1535
    Quote Originally Posted by hablix View Post
    That's the problem. No matter how many times it's rehashed, people refuse to accept that there is more to this game than stats, that there are reasons other than player performance that affects why players view this as fundamentally wrong. It's not even worth reiterating them because I suspect you will just dismiss them out of hand because they are unrelated to DPS stats.
    The problem isn't how people view things. The problem is that it's just stupid and shortsighted to kick people from LFR because they chose to buy an item from the Blizzard store. What I think is funny is that all of a sudden it's a "problem". If people are so up in arms about "store bought items", then they should be kicking people for having store pets or store mounts too. But hypocrisy being what it is..
    Stating an opinion as fact does not make it fact. Opinions are not fact. So don't be stupid and make a fool of yourself by trying to pass off your opinion as fact.

  16. #1536
    Quote Originally Posted by kazih View Post
    Too bad you're not intellectually up to the task of understanding when it's appropriate, as you just had demonstrated.
    Oh, the irony.

  17. #1537
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    The fact it's a personal attack on the player only indicates one thing - JEALOUSY. Kicking the player won't make a shred of difference to your sad little "protest", and if anything would get you suspended.

    I bet not one of these whiners have written to Blizzard directly expressing their views.

  18. #1538
    Quote Originally Posted by hablix View Post
    You're right, it was the players. Let's not forget it was all facilitated by decisions made by Blizzard.
    reminds me of on queer as folk when the judge said that the man was justified in beating the main character with a baseball bat because seeing a gay man dancing horrified him into protecting himself.

    Blizzard has done nothing wrong. People are saying this is "ruining" the game because of events that have not happened, and may never happen. And further more you are attacking the wrong people. your are justifying griefing people who's only flaw is the fact that they liked something that makes them look pretty so they bought it.!

  19. #1539
    Quote Originally Posted by naturetauren View Post
    Well soon they might give me a free week but i wonder if there will be any on. About all the servers i used to play in from vanilla to CATA is dead now and they are forced to change arena search because of it.
    Have you read about Virtual Realms?

  20. #1540
    Quote Originally Posted by cyberglum View Post
    How is someone wearing a set of fiery horns affecting your gameplay? You're just being a douchebag.
    I don't really think you can comprehend the other side of the argument.

    In a game that is paid for monthly to be updated we should not have to pay for 'external' items which can be used in-game, it simply leads to blizzard obtaining profits from people who are obsessed with collecting or transmogrification. The correct way to do it is to place those items in-game, and either make them an extremely low drop chance, craftable or obtainable by a specific means which actually is dictated by dedication or time investment within the game.

    Tell me, why shouldn't Blizzard have placed the items in game for free? What is your reasoning for them having a legit reason for making them cost a months subcrition? Inb4 HURR DURR it's a business, shut the hell up with that excuse, do you say that when an insurance company tries to rip you off? It seems you guys WANT to be ripped off, you literally bend over and accept it, it's so pathetic.

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