He should be fired. The state of PVP is actually disgusting right now.
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He should be fired. The state of PVP is actually disgusting right now.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
Over the years I've been pretty critical of him. This said however I will say that aside from a few individual spats with him, I prefer to take a longer view of the game. The game is greater than any individual and while I dislike concepts like CRZ I can see why they were implemented. Most of the things he does and says are well reasoned, and he has the guts to tell off people who are being stupid to not be stupid. For this and his efforts at Class Balance which are almost ALWAYS taken out of context by mouthbreathers "Leveraging for nerfs / buffs" as Tseric would of said, I think he's doing well.
The real problem is that people rage that he isn't a servile whimpering yes-man that does what they want, rather than what the game needs and so like broken records, they make "FIRE GC!11!!" Threads, never realizing that in the end. They are expendable. People like Xanzul who behave as attack dogs do him a disservice, as they make him appear to be an authoritarian asshole, and having met him IRL at one point. He's far from that.
Maybe some will say WoW's decline is his doing, and maybe it is to a point. Yet the petulant dip-shits will quit regardless, and blame him. More and more will come in and the cycle will repeat. So it goes.
The end of the discussion though is the Game is almost a Decade old, and the community sucks. So kudos to him for staying sane.
Last edited by The Penguin; 2013-08-06 at 09:57 PM.
thats right. gc isnt the one to blame. its KALGAN who is to blame for messing everything up! get rid of him and watch everything get better again over time.
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yes and the pvptard is kalgan. fool dont know how to code or balance.
Whoever will lose his position doesn't matter for as long as it will fix at least some of WoW problems.
Even though I heavily dislike GC, but CRZ has nothing to do with him. It was financial department, who pointed out easy savings on expenses (as CRZ allows to cut expenses on hardware by around 80% - that's quite significant cut). It was more than obvious that CRZ wouldn't benefit any player. In this case GC was just messenger and nothing depended from him.The game is greater than any individual and while I dislike concepts like CRZ I can see why they were implemented.
There are rumors flying around that Xanzul is GC in disguise.People like Xanzul who behave as attack dogs do him a disservice, as they make him appear to be an authoritarian asshole, and having met him IRL at one point.
Last edited by Ferocity; 2013-08-07 at 05:44 AM.
I rather like how open GC is and how he explains why they do such and such things. As an interface with players, I think he's quite good.
I also tend to feel for him when he's facing knee-jerk reactions from many in the community, and that much of the hostility he's confronted to is misplaced.
But I think he fails hard when it comes to making the game "good". I'm not sure if it's because of "him" or because he's been instructed to follow bad guidelines, but since he's been lead designer, the game has consistently went in the wrong direction.
He also lost my respect considerably with his flip-flopping, making a big deal of things and defining them as core design philosophy point, just to make a 180° in short order. This made him look very insincere and unreliable.
Additionnally, he felt very out of touch with the real state of the game (I'll remember all my gaming life how he tried to argue that WotLK "heroics" were not facerolls at the beginning, despite people clearing them in quest greens, and how AoE weren't overpowered and "you could not AoE Vezaxx trash before overgearing the instance", despite even non-HM guilds doing just that at the time.
As such, as "lead designer", the guy in charge of giving the game direction, he's in my eyes a complete failure, and should be replaced.
Last edited by Akka; 2013-08-07 at 09:26 AM.
What is there really to say? People who dislike whatever change will blame him. Regardless whether that change was a benefit for other players or not.
No matter who's the lead designer, no matter what the WoW team does, there will be players raging at him or her for "leading the game in the wrong direction"
The only difference is whether YOU agrees with the change or not. If GC does something YOU agree with, there will still be angry mobs on his twitter. Difference being, YOU are now silent.
"If you're doing things right, people will think you've done nothing at all."
Active WoW player Jan 2006 - Aug 2020
Occasional WoW Classic Andy since.
Nothing lasts forever, as they say.
But at least I can casually play Classic and remember when MMORPGs were good.
A post begins with: "This kind of thread is, in my opinion..." And what you get out of it is that it's an opinion presented as fact. I honestly don't know if you are taking the piss, or just fail so miserably at reading comprehension. Or maybe it's just typical bad manners from yet another "keyboard warrior" searching frantically for an excuse to unleash his "digital wrath." If that is the case I hope you at least let some steam out.
Last edited by Drithien; 2013-08-07 at 11:21 AM.
He's too shit to lose his position. Bad things don't happen to bad people.
LOL at thread.
Seriously you should never wish any man ever to loose his job regardless how much you hate them.
Should be privileged that the game is still going otherwise you would be on a different mmo forum wishing some other lead dev be sacked....
Personally id like to meet the whole team maybe have a pint with em shake some hands, see how its all put together at the main HQ.
However shit you may think the game is....your all still logging on!!
Hats off to them all.
Without the changes WoW would now be at 4 million subs or less. The game is VERY OLD and it's a miracle that millions still play it. LFR and other changes made that possible. Why do all people think WoW would be better if they did not change it? Loot at other MMOs in the past that did not change - their subs dropped in 1-2 years 80%!
Atoms are liars, they make up everything!
Game is old and there are lots of other games out there. No matter what changes are made it's gradually going to lose subs... That's just the way it is. Whoever they hired the game would lose subs.
Never going to log into this garbage forum again as long as calling obvious troll obvious troll is the easiest way to get banned.
Trolling should be.
Two answers to that :
1) I see him as a complete failure on the gaming fun point of view, not the marketting crap. Even if WoW had 25 millions subscribers today instead of less than a third of that, it would still be a pile of steaming shit compared to what it was before GC.
2) In any case, the game doesn't look it's going great right now even when it comes to subscriptions, so even for that my case still stands.
OK, so it was Rob Pardo speaking in an interview for WoW's fifth anniversary when he said that the total subscriber base was between 2 and 3 times the current subscriber base (11.5 million).
So there we have it, somewhere close to 30 million total subscriber base in November 2009.
You're right, I meant complexity.
AND depth.
I guess I lumped those into the same category on accident.
But how would the average whiner know about those things if less than 1% of the playerbase actual raided SWP during its relevance?Sunwell is great example because people it's also often repeated here that it was the best raid ever. There were plenty of things wrong with it that people tend to gloss over with nostalgia goggles, like for example the chain potting and the farming requirements to support it.
I know every player on this forum says they did, but I have to believe the actual number is much, much lower.
Last edited by Destruktion; 2013-08-07 at 02:07 PM.