Woot Slam Buff, OH WAIT I DONT HAVE ANY RAGE AT ALL!!!!!!

[Aeluron Lightsong]

-make up bullshit about it being pve since pvenerd
-try to act cool
- profit?

There's more to balancing then just PVP. So you can't just rage about PVE changes. Most of the warrior complaints seem to stem from PVP(From Warriors). If you want to protect the Warrior, stand up for it on the PVE stance. There's more to this game then PVP.

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Slam (Arms) Slams the opponent, causing 330% weapon damage plus 4,937 to that target. 275% weapon damage plus 3,426 to that target.

Next PTR build. Should be fine now.

[GodEmperor]

Wish they'd do something to MS and OP preferably change how TFB works instead of just fucking around with Slam. Even in Battle stance you will go rage starved with a couple of slams and an OP. Been testing PTR and Arms feels like the most boring of all classes to play in a BG. Arms warrior should be renamed Slam warrior.

If you want to do any kind of damage, All you do is slam and more slams and then some more. MS hits for 9-12k. OP crits for 10k and if it doesn't crit then you give a new meaning to wet noodles, Heroic strike is worthless even more so than live, another ability forever gone from our action bars. And everything other than Slam hits for low amounts even with CDs with the exception of bladestorm, but let's be serious, no sensible arms warrior will take bladestorm even with all its buffs.

The QOL buffs are nice but unless they do something to MS and OP and hopefully TFB or mastery which i doubt they will, we're gonna be in the same state as PvP in live. PvE however, especially with the 2Pc Arms will only be just under Fury with the Slam and deep wounds buff since we're literally swimming in rage. Ok not literally

Edit : Oh and forgot to mention the best part. PvP execute without Cds hits leather for 19k-20k which is less damage than Slam for more rage cost while we have Shadowburn hits for 60-70k. Quite possibly, unless you have Cds up, Slam will also replace execute as our finisher since it can hit for 20-25k even without CDs.

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Slam (Arms) Slams the opponent, causing 330% weapon damage plus 4,937 to that target. 275% weapon damage plus 3,426 to that target.

Next PTR build. Should be fine now.

not next it is on ptr since 2-3 days

[Korgoth]

25 instead of 30 doesn't make it fine now. At 15 it was hard enough to get use out of.

Put it on a CD, remove the rage cost, add a rage gain, and let Heroic Strike serve it's purpose.

[GodEmperor]

It's 20 rage on live and feels just right for the damage it does since you can also make use of Defensive stance every now. Slam was never 15 rage. Going defensive stance on the PTR, you cannot do any meaningful damage unlike live where a little pressure is possible.

[Sliske]

25 instead of 30 doesn't make it fine now. At 15 it was hard enough to get use out of.

Put it on a CD, remove the rage cost, add a rage gain, and let Heroic Strike serve it's purpose.

I'd probably cry with happiness if this happened.

[Beefkow]

Put it on a CD, remove the rage cost, add a rage gain, and let Heroic Strike serve it's purpose.

/tears of happiness

That is the most beautiful thing i've heard of since cata (or a long time that is), let this be done!

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dont see the problem with slam its now soo strong and Arms DPS is fine imom

[Raugnaut]

It's 20 rage on live and feels just right for the damage it does since you can also make use of Defensive stance every now. Slam was never 15 rage. Going defensive stance on the PTR, you cannot do any meaningful damage unlike live where a little pressure is possible.

Slam used to be 15 rage during Cata. Warriors were a whole different ballgame during cata.

All this change does is seperate the great arms warriors from the good ones in pvp. Oh well.

[icausewipes]

Slam used to be 15 rage during Cata. Warriors were a whole different ballgame during cata.

All this change does is seperate the great arms warriors from the good ones in pvp. Oh well.

100% agree.

I was on the PTR pvp'n and had no issue with rage. Slam hits like beast and the complaining might come from a lack of skill.