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  1. #421
    Congratz guys on another World 1st kill!
    Awesome job!

    Now, I hope Paragon will win 10m tier as well.

  2. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiziana View Post
    is it really so hard to understand, that its still the same game? yeah, they run with the system we used in wotlk (don't know about earlier), and 2 lock-outs per week, yeah they get more gear, yeah they have better gear, but it's still the same game, they are still counted in the subscription numbers, why should'nt they be able to participate in the WF race, just because some people are butthurt over it?
    Really? Really?

    2 lock-outs per week, yeah they get more gear, yeah they have better gear

    You admit that, and still seem to think it's fair?
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  3. #423
    Holy zerg batman.

    edit: does 10 avg ilvl give you 24+ hours of advantage? Still there is not a single kill yet by any western guild in 10hc, and is not like they dont have enough people to farm SoO 25 hc. In a fight that gear check like garrosh 25 its more easy, you have more room to use different strategies like 3 tanks , 3 heals and a bunch of dps with strong dps and personal cd.
    Last edited by Clrg; 2013-10-01 at 07:01 AM.

  4. #424
    well done, I say

  5. #425
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    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    Really? Really?

    2 lock-outs per week, yeah they get more gear, yeah they have better gear

    You admit that, and still seem to think it's fair?
    you think its fair the US gets 24 hours more than EU?

  6. #426
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    lol @ this thread.

    It's gonna be even more fun when the first EU/US 10 man gets the kill.. *grabs popcorn*

    GZ Method on world first!

  7. #427
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiziana View Post
    Yeah they get more gear, yeah they have better gear, but it's still the same game, they are still counted in the subscription numbers, why should'nt they be able to participate in the WF race, just because some people are butthurt over it?
    The argument is that they should have then killed the boss on 25 Heroic, not 10 Heroic, to claim the credit. 25 Heroic is balanced around the loot said guilds receive, not the 10 Heroic mode there.

  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiziana View Post
    you think its fair the US gets 24 hours more than EU?
    No it's not fair but better gear, more gear, more often

    is MILES AND MILES worse than 24 hours, during which time the initial boss kills don't even matter

    There's a slight advantage, and there's handing out gear from the next raid tier for the current boss. It's really not that hard to grasp
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  9. #429
    @prwraith : Cherche pas, la moitié du thread est juste peuplé de grands fan de l'excitage de forums. On y peut rien. Tu perd ton temps à vouloir les raisonner

    On topic : Gratz to Method ! It took less time than other bosses (like Ragna), so for me it just means that the boss was doable but so extremely tuned than Method just outsmart AND outskilled it.

    So in a sense, it's even more impressive.

    PS : Allez les Wraith ! Et passez le bonjour à Volv
    Last edited by Shauni; 2013-10-01 at 07:05 AM.

  10. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by Yakshamash View Post
    China is not listed there.
    Wait China is not on the progression tracking site? Why would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    No it's not fair but better gear, more gear, more often

    is MILES AND MILES worse than 24 hours, during which time the initial boss kills don't even matter
    so basically, if it's not accounted for on wowprogress, it's not legit? A WF is a WF. Unless there has been gamebreaking bugs which has been abused.

  12. #432
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakto View Post
    Wait China is not on the progression tracking site? Why would that be?
    The Chinese armory doesnt have the API to collect data.

  13. #433
    gratz Method on World first! I would have guessed paragon might beat it sooner, but still im good either way.

    hurray for methods!!

  14. #434
    Well, Method had 3 days advantage over BL on Garrosh. Grats anyway!

  15. #435
    I dont see why are ppl so worked up about the topic, it says clearly 25-man world first. So why even start the fight over x and y, Asia guild got 10-man world first Method got 25-man end of story.

    Also, some mods are on quite a power trip, sure you can warn ppl about not picking up/starting fights, but apointing your self as the one who rules what parts of the world are included in world first race and how, is a bit of power trip and should rly lower you ego a bit.

  16. #436
    Quote Originally Posted by Itakas View Post
    Also, some mods are on quite a power trip, sure you can warn ppl about not picking up/starting fights, but apointing your self as the one who rules what parts of the world are included in world first race and how, is a bit of power trip and should rly lower you ego a bit.
    No they don't. At first they just wanted to stop the incivilities, but the thread derailed in a huge circle-jerk where everyone just camped on their position while accusing the other part of "refusing to listen to reason", so they had to stop. They didn't "set the world race's rules". They just said "Stop with the Asia/World crap. It's a 25M HC WF."

    they just want people to chill out and be civil

  17. #437
    Quote Originally Posted by rauta View Post
    Well, Method had 3 days advantage over BL on Garrosh. Grats anyway!
    ...Because they played better and killed the earlier bosses faster (despite EU getting the patch a day later).

    World Second Garrosh HC kill
    World First Garrosh HC kill in the west
    World First Garrosh HC 25 kill

    I understand as much as the next person that the asians have a significantly easier 10man, and still an easier 25man, due to their lockouts and higher ilvl. I still don't wish to discredit their kill as it was world first hc. I was looking to see the 25/10 kills in the west due to these mechanics, but they still deserve acknowledgement imo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    which is kind of like saying "of COURSE you can't see the unicorns, unicorns are invisible, silly."

  18. #438
    Grats for the kill I kinda hoped the boss would last a bit longer but well.

  19. #439
    Well, we had our nerdscreams, we had bosses that lasted for days, we had Garrosh/riggnaros's tweeter account, we had our drama and we had our nerdscreams...

    For me, I had what I wanted, it was a pretty intense race

    Now, back to siegecrafter...NM....

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