the best final boss of the 4 expansions

[valax]

Arthas hands down the whole ICC climax and the fight mechanics made it the best for me

[Louis CK]

Wait what?
You should've gotten enough motes to make your SR while progressing or did your guild decide to sell these to other progressing guilds? I know we killed Mother on our very first pull.

Edit: as for my favourite, I dunno, never did ICC since I got so bored with WotLK and never really cared for Arthas/The Lich King to begin with despite having played and been a fan of Warcraft since the first game Warcraft: Orcs and Humans was released.
Deathwing had so much potential and was the one boss I had really looked forward to since I started raiding back in vanilla but he ended up being a huge dissapointment.
So I guess my award unless we can count vanilla since that wasn't an expansion goes to Kil'Jaeden even though he doesn't really have any precense during TBC up until Sunwell was actually released.
Garrosh was nice as well though.

I honestly don't remember exactly. It was pretty close to Wrath release at the time (my first raiding guild) and I just remember there was a vote and the majority said they'd rather farm what we had until Wrath and not bother with finishing BT. /shrug

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Arthas sucked as a fight. He's just winning because a lot of players felt Warcraft ended when he died.

[Spellbraker]

Fight wise: Arthas
Lore wise: Kil'Jaeden

[Louis CK]

Arthas sucked as a fight. He's just winning because a lot of players felt Warcraft ended when he died.

I thought it was a really fun fight. Watching people get thrown into oblivion by shadow traps, managing adds, sucked into frostmourne... I remember some of my favorite times in WoW from that fight specifically. Granted, I absolutely loved my guild at that time and miss them all to this day, but the fight was still fun.

[Larynx]

TBC was a clusterfuck of "story" and honestly I consider Illidan the big bad, not Kil'jaeden. Either way, Illidan was done horrible and Kil'jaeden was random filler.

Cata had a villain which no one could relate to, was batshit insane, and came out of nowhere. I imagine most people's response to Deathwing was, "Who?" since he wasn't really that important of a character outside a book.

MoP was actually pretty good. Garrosh had several expansions worth of build up, he developed as a character throughout all of it too. He had very obvious goals and motivations, even if they weren't presented as well as possible.

Wotlk had Arthas, which some consider as the central antagonist of Warcraft. He had years of build up, had a very well fleshed out story, and he interacted constantly with us through the expansion. The biggest issue is that he's a pretty one dimensional character after his fall.

I'd give it as a toss up between Arthas and Garrosh honestly. Garrosh felt like a stronger character to me, but Arthas has the nostalgia. No one would ever care about Garrosh after Wotlk if he wasn't Warchief, so unless Cata is nostalgic for you he doesn't have that advantage.

As far as fight mechanics go, Deathwing is bottom of the barrel. The rest I think are very adequate boss fights, though this isn't counting Illidan or Kil'jaeden. Arthas is comparable to Garrosh's fight mechanically, and imo it had a better setting to. I mean, you're fighting at the top of a 1000 foot frozen tower. That's pretty epic.

[MrUrthor]

Too easy. Arthas was at the pinnnacle of Blizzard's RTS lore machine which made the fight almost spiritual to a LOT of people. Plus it was jjjjusttttt mechanics-dense enough to qualify for the hard-core raiding. Double win.

[inboundpaper]

I actually really like Deathwing's fights as a concept, but they played like shit. Arthas is still my favorite.

[miffy23]

Where the hell is Kel'Thuzad? No vote from me :/

[Boricha]

Arthas takes the cake for me. Probably my favorite WoW Villian.

[Durandro]

Fight wise? That's a tough choice between The Lich King and Garrosh Hellscream. Both are multi-phase epics in front of a dominating throne, where the enviroment changes and potentially kills you, and personal responsibility is assigned to every raid member. Not to mention both contain relatively large amounts of adds that need to be delt with properly and both have very tight DPS requirements (at appropriate levels). Considering its newer and more polished, I think Garrosh wins by a small amount - but it was built off the success of The Lich King's design.

Kild'jaeden (and Illidan, for that matter - its hard to decide if he really counts as a 'final boss' considering Sunwell was a 'filler patch' and we don't count Hallion as the final boss of Wrath) had a great encounter too, but lacked the polish in future encounters.

Deathwing's encounter could and should have been awesome. But it wasn't handled properly - really we should have been fighting Deathwing primarily and small groups should have to split off to deal with his claws periodically, not all focused on one toenail at a time while especially just killing adds for 15 minutes solid.

Lore wise? They are all awesome in their own way.

Deathwing is bottom of the list because his insane genius wasn't reflected in his final encounters, there was no 'Xanatos Gambit' moment of the Lich King which would have worked amazingly well for him - you defeat me, I'll take you and the whole world with me sort of thing. It would have been amazing if we find out that using the Dragon Soul on him was actually what caused it to corrupt into the Demon Soul, echoing back through time to the point we took it from, and there's nothing we can do alter future events that we now realise we caused. Alas, such is the way of things - Dragon Soul was rushed, and it sorely shows...

[delus]

Im curious about this, we got 4 full expansions now, each one end with the big bad boss, you got Kil'jaeden, The Lich King, Deathwing, now we have Garrosh Hellscream. Who wins out beetwen these gentilmen? Who's your favorite??

Arthas would have been the best had he been the actual last boss of WOTLK. Unfortunately they released Ruby Sanctum.

Perhaps the mods should change the title to The best Main boss of an expansion. Then this poll would be somewhat accurate. I would put Illidan in Kil'jaden's place though since most of tbc was centered around him

[Deleted]

Arthas would have been the best had he been the actual last boss of WOTLK. Unfortunately they released Ruby Sanctum.

Perhaps the mods should change the title to The best Main boss of an expansion. Then this poll would be somewhat accurate. I would put Illidan in Kil'jaden's place though since most of tbc was centered around him

Yes, i get that point, i just dont even count halion as part of woltk it's mostly a pre cata thing, while KJ wrap up burning crusade

[Kaleredar]

Arthas, for sure.


Garrosh came pretty close, though. He just didn't have the same weight, awesome quotes, or awesome locale. The Lich King fight had all of these things.

Deathwing was just a disappointment.

[Vargur]

Ragnaros was the true final boss of Cataclysm. So I vote for him/it/her.
Followed closely by LK.

[Sierra85]

Lich King was the best final boss, easily. A true encounter, not fighting some dragons fingernails

[Deleted]

Probably Arthas, this fight was just awesome, but Kil'JAeden was, too. Deathwing, forget about that shit, and Garrosh is....a fight, that is okay. Nothing special but still good.

Just looking on mechanics. Lorewise Garrosh is behind Arthas, but not that far away. The Arthas SL was awesome for sure, but I think as how we saw the SL of Garrosh going on ingame, I think the Garrosh SL ist just a small step behind, it was done very nicely.

Deathwing story was also good, but the overall was bullshit.

And Kil'Jaeden had a storyline? Don't remember, but storytelling in BC was overall not that good

[DemoBytom]

As much as I'd like to say otherwise - it has to be Arthas.. Mechanics wise his fight was brilliantly designed. Each phase was different, felt different and required different strategy.
With Garrosh I don't have this feeling.. It's close but not as good in design as Arthas was. If Lei Shen was final boss of this expansion - I'd probably choose him though. I loved that fight and the feeling of progression you had during each phase. I loved how each phase taught you something you needed in latter phases and that you were able to choose which mechanics you wanted to empower (even though everyone chose the same tbh)..
Lorewise though - Garrosh and Arthas (and again - Lei Shen too) are the closest ones. All had a storyline leading up to the raid that I enjoyed. I knew why I have to fight them and I felt good doing so. None of them felt like an alien to me. And I might say that Garrosh does have an edge here.. His build up was great,and I loved watching him change during, pretty much, 3 expansions. Hope we'll see him again at some point.. I still wait for his noble sacrifice to be "just like his father".. But he'd need to become corrupted for the 2nd time first though :P

Madness was one big piece of meh.. A fight where everyone dropped to 5 man content level of hit and expertise, since you didn't even need the +3lvl hit, was just a disgrace.. Plus I felt like a nail designer just doing some manicure to a giant dragon..

Kil'Jaeden - I dunno, I never fought him as current content, I don't even know all the mechanics.

[Resentful]

Arthas will never have a competition, Nothing will come close to this boss and I do mean nothing :P

[Deleted]

Arthas, no other end boss is even close.

Anyone who argues otherwise has no clue about this game.