Looking to replace Laptop with Desktop

[schwank05]

Hello,

I have had the same Laptop for the last 3 years and It used to be able to handle the game on good settings, but now It has trouble with Poor.

What I am looking for is a nice all around Desktop, I have never had one so I want it to be something that will last at least 3 years.

Budget- $1000.00
Resolution- 1680X945
Games / Settings Desired- Will play mostly MMO's Wow is the main, dabble in TSW and a few others I want to be able to play all games on Ultra/ Highest settings
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)- The only other software I use is EFILive a tuning software for cars.
Country- USA
Parts that can be reused- I have nothing
Do you need an OS?- I would want Windows 7 OS
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?- I would need Monitor 19"+ I would like a wide screen, I have a Mouse, would need A Keyboard

Think that is about it, I guess I would have to assemble this myself? I am not on the up and up with all this I kinda just play games and use software. SO the hardware is kinda a mystery to me, I do work on cars and with wiring and computers on Cars on a daily basis so this shouldnt be that tough for me to figure out quickly.

Basically I want to be able to play WOW at Ultra settings and have more then 40-50 fps at all times not the 2 that I am at in 25-40 man raids ATM. I have nothing really for a Desktop so would need all parts.

[Biernot]

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $970.46

Including (besides the tower itself):
- Windows 7 home premium (you could also get Windows 8 instead for about the same price)
- Keyboard (if you want to save a few bucks, get a plain standard model for $10-20)
- Monitor (23" IPS)

With that monitor you will be playing in 1920x1080, but the cpu + graphics card should handle that fine.

With the peripherals and windows included in the budget, sadly there was no room for a 4670k + Heatsink + Z87 motherboard.

[schwank05]

What about without the Peripherals. I can get them later as some family members are looking for stuff to get me for xmas. I want this thing to for sure handle the best possible Resolution and Settings WOW has to offer. Can It be made to work better with the last 3 parts listed? I don't need a special keyboard, but would like the keys to be flatish and not raised up so its like my laptop.

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Also does this have the liquid cooling system in it? Is that a thing that is needed?

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Also I need to have at least 4 USB ports, and is there a red/ Black case available?

[Deleted]

Well, it's a fair trek to the nearest Microcenter, otherwise there's a much-improved build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Wintec One 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.99 @ Adorama)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1061.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-07 15:02 EST-0500)

You lose the keyboard, and I'd still recommend Windows 8 or 8.1 over 7 at the moment, but it sounds like 7's more important for vocational reasons. In addition there are a number of guides on how to build (it's like a funky LEGO set), but you won't be guaranteed 40-50 at all times, unfortunately, because the WoW architecture isn't well-optimised for modern computers.

[schwank05]

I need 7 for my tuning software to work properly, and I dont much like how 8 is basically a tablet. But at any rate This build will let me play on Ultra and not lag out when there are more than 15 people in my group? All I really care about is playing on best settings and not lagging out, hell if FPS stays over 20 and never drops to 3 like it does now Ill be happy.

BTW that case is tits.

[Deleted]

If you can get the build I linked with Win7 SP1 and the case Biernot linked, it'll come out to the same price, give or take a buck, and your minimum FPS shouild be eminently playable for WoW and some modern games.

[schwank05]

OK so I went and looked at a few things and came up with this

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20Hhq

Hope that link worked. The one thing i totally spaced on is that I live in the country and only have Wireless internet in my house, so I would need a Wireless card built in as well. Can someone please recommend a card. I want it to be the best card I can get for my money.

I can get the Monitor for Christmas, so basically there is more room there for the main build so basically $1000.00 ish give or take $100.00 for the best thing I can get with a Red/ black case, handle WOW on ultra settings and play on the monitor you recommended.

[Biernot]

OK so I went and looked at a few things and came up with this

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20Hhq

Hope that link worked. The one thing i totally spaced on is that I live in the country and only have Wireless internet in my house, so I would need a Wireless card built in as well. Can someone please recommend a card. I want it to be the best card I can get for my money.

I can get the Monitor for Christmas, so basically there is more room there for the main build so basically $1000.00 ish give or take $100.00 for the best thing I can get with a Red/ black case, handle WOW on ultra settings and play on the monitor you recommended.

That build is good, except those two things:

Case: Raidmax is awful. Cheap build quality, bad cable management, etc.. For that price, i would strongly suggest either NZXT Source 210 Elite or Fractal Design Core 3000 (my favorite)

PSU: While the Corsair CX series is not bad, there is better for a similar price: XFX Core Edition 550W


As for wireless:
Do you mean you have a WLAN router that you need to connect to or do you mean you get wireless internet (3G, 4G, LTE, ...)?

[schwank05]

I really don't know crap about Computers I just use them, except automotive computers now those I can manipulate no problem. anyway back OT, I only picked that case because it looks cool I want a red case if possible.

And I have Wireless internet that is transmitted to my home from signals that are bounced off the various Grain elevators in my area and I grab the signal from them and it is turned to a wireless signal. When this internet id down I use my phone for 4G so I need to have a wireless card in the computer.

[Deleted]

Okay then, try this case if you want the red theme, this WLAN adapter and the PSU that Biernot recommended. That'll take your build up to ~$1015 including shipping.

[schwank05]

OK so does this look right then?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/20P2H

[Deleted]

That should be fine. It's not going to be an awesome gaming rig, but it'll perform just right.

[schwank05]

That should be fine. It's not going to be an awesome gaming rig, but it'll perform just right.

What would make it an awesome gaming rig I can push the budget. I want this thing to be great gaming PC.

[Deleted]

What would make it an awesome gaming rig I can push the budget. I want this thing to be great gaming PC.

Pumping up the GPU to an r9-280x or a GTX770 would be a start, but that adds a minimum of $100 to the build.

[schwank05]

200-300 bucks is no big deal, I don't want to spend money and have an OK machine. I just saw all these 800-1000 computers that people say are excellent so that is where I put my budget.

So this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/21bYs

I couldn't find the GTX770 I want whichever one is better.

[Deleted]

They're around the same point - GTX770 is looking hotter for streaming (due to the built-in h.264 codec chip and Shadowplay) whilst the 280x has Mantle coming soon. So pick a decent coolant system, such as the DCIITOP from ASUS or the Sapphire TOXIC or the MSI Gaming range coolers, budget-permitting.

[schwank05]

Do you mean CPU cooler? Im a little lost can you please recommend or link which one is best.

[Deleted]

Do you mean CPU cooler? Im a little lost can you please recommend or link which one is best.

Those are GPU cooling systems I linked.