Titanfall = 48 GB install for PC, 40 GB for Xbox One

[zealo]

Quite happy the current gen did not go digital only.

But since we are sticking with physical media for the meantime, why haven't we moved to flash drives? Solid state is far more durable than a disk, and the read speeds are faster. As well, you can store far more on 1 piece of media. This would allow the users to not have to worry about downloading anything but quick updates.

I'm sure one of the reasons is due to the easy of copying a flash drive and cracking it to get a free copy..but come on now, you can do that just as well with a disk.

Production costs. A DVD or a BD is far cheaper than to send a flash drive with each unit.

[Kathandira]

Production costs. A DVD or a BD is far cheaper than to send a flash drive with each unit.

Fair point. Just checked, at retail price they are about $25-$50 for 32GB. However, i'm curious how much they would cost in bulk. Especially to a company like Sony or Microsoft. Sony has their own line of flash drives, so that may reduce the cost of getting them to the publishers. Prolly no where near as cheap as a disk though.

[Edge-]

Prolly no where near as cheap as a disk though.

Yup. That's a big part of it. They already have supply and production chains all set up and ready for the current blue ray disk format, and changing over to a new format would be an expensive logistical hassle. So while the flash drives themselves would be more expensive, the process of transitioning over would be expensive and time consuming as well.

[Shakadam]

Don't care about the download size, 100/100 mbit no data cap takes care of that easily enough, but 48gb? Damn I need to buy some more harddrives. Not even an MMO is that large Oo

[Kathandira]

Yup. That's a big part of it. They already have supply and production chains all set up and ready for the current blue ray disk format, and changing over to a new format would be an expensive logistical hassle. So while the flash drives themselves would be more expensive, the process of transitioning over would be expensive and time consuming as well.

It's a shame they took the time to transfer from Regular CD format over to Blu Ray. But I guess at the time, Flash Drives weren't quite as awesome, and affordable as they are today. And only getting cheaper and cheaper.

[Mormolyce]

Wow, that's insane... Got no cap here, 100Mbit/s up and download, costs me 30 euro a month. I can pay an additional 20 euro and get 1000Mbit/s instead, also no cap at all.

On topic: 48GB for a multiplayer FPS game? Cool.

Nobody sane would get that plan of course, there are smaller ISPs that run better deals. But our infrastructure is so shit your choice of ISP is restricted by the closest node to you. I like 20 minutes from Melbourne and the only ISP on my node was Telstra so I got royally fucked, my last ISP had unlimited for less money than I'm paying now. And it took them THREE MONTHS to connect me because they fucked it up so bad, had to pay exorbitant mobile internet rates in the meantime. Nightmare.

Telstra actually changed those plans since several years ago when I last looked. Back then the smallest plan was 200Mb lol. I remember when they were rolling out our new fibre optic network someone calculated that at the new speeds you'd use up the basic Telstra plan in three seconds.

[Kathandira]

Don't care about the download size, 100/100 mbit no data cap takes care of that easily enough, but 48gb? Damn I need to buy some more harddrives. Not even an MMO is that large Oo

Yeah, I have to see it to believe that this is worth the space on a HD.

[Mormolyce]

Yeah I'm starting to seriously run low on HDD space, and I have 2 drives apart from my SSD.

No game should ever make you feel like you need to delete some porn to make room. That's crossing A LINE!

Production costs. A DVD or a BD is far cheaper than to send a flash drive with each unit.

Yeah. I've often wondered if the mass production costs would eventually make flash drives a feasible means of distribution. Optical media feels archaic now.

A better solution would be your local game store loading software onto a flash drive you bring in along with a unique key. But of course the industry would freak out at the potential piracy implications *rolleyes*.

[Window]

There is no Aussie servers so we are stuck at 200-400 ms vsing Americans with 20-50ms.

not really true Sg and eastern asian players but still a big difference in ping
But why did people vote fking liberals, 10 years from now still rotting in even worse copper net sigh

[Clrg]

This remember me The force unleashed, god awful port, everytime you wanted to patch the game, the game made a backup of the WHOLE GAME in a different folder, the game weight was audio files because the game installed different audio and video language for each cutscene.

[Moonhound]

Makes me excited to see just how much more the game has to offer, compared to what we actually saw during the beta.

[Korgoth]

So for me thats 48,000mb/7mbs/60s/60m = 1.9 hrs. Not that bad really. Though if this becomes normal might have to move from 50 to 100mbps; or hopefully Google builds out here in Cali and I can jump to 1 gigabit.

[Fortera]

In comparison, TESO is 60gb, and that is an MMO with open world.

It's not open world. It's a bunch of zoned areas segregated by load portals.

[Korgoth]

That and TESO uses low quality textures and assets.

[wombinator04]

I feel so bad for people who have data caps, I would never be able to live with one. It's such a scam its ridiculous.

A 48GB install is just pathetic and puts a black mark on Titanfall. Clearly there was no compression or anything to help reduce the file size. But this is ex infinity ward were talking bout here. They have some of the most arrogant devs.

[Kathandira]

So for me thats 48,000mb/7mbs/60s/60m = 1.9 hrs. Not that bad really. Though if this becomes normal might have to move from 50 to 100mbps; or hopefully Google builds out here in Cali and I can jump to 1 gigabit.

Between Physical and Digital copies of games. I can stop at game stop on my way home which is maybe 5 minutes out of my way, grab the game, then go home and pop it in. Or I can go straight home, begin a download and wait 2 hours or the 4 I have between getting home and going to bed.

I really don't like this digital method.

[fierydemise]

So for me thats 48,000mb/7mbs/60s/60m = 1.9 hrs. Not that bad really. Though if this becomes normal might have to move from 50 to 100mbps; or hopefully Google builds out here in Cali and I can jump to 1 gigabit.

Its 48000 megabytes not 48000 megabits so on a 7megabit/second connection it will take ~16 hours.

[Remilia]

I feel so bad for people who have data caps, I would never be able to live with one. It's such a scam its ridiculous.

A 48GB install is just pathetic and puts a black mark on Titanfall. Clearly there was no compression or anything to help reduce the file size. But this is ex infinity ward were talking bout here. They have some of the most arrogant devs.

Compression causes loss in qualify. Really simple as that.

[Kathandira]

Compression causes loss in qualify. Really simple as that.

Depends what's being compressed.

For example, I can compress a large Excel file, and not lose quality. Because well, there is not quality to lose lol.

[jordonus]

Its 48000 megabytes not 48000 megabits so on a 7megabit/second connection it will take ~16 hours.

Or maybe it's 7 megabytes/second which is a common standard 50-60mbps package. Further, the twitter says the download is only 21gb not 48gb, which means it would actually only take him about 50 minutes to download.

Personally I have a 100mbps connection and, assuming the download delivers at that speed, it would take just under 30 minutes to download this game. A lot more convenient than going to a store to buy it, probably takes less time too when you factor in the travel time, shopping/checkout time, etc...