This could be explained pretty easy. As far as I know enhancement has really insane burst for on pull where you can pop everything like on Juggernaut. If your raid dps is really high aswell, and not just you peaking up 100k above everything else, the boss will obviously die really fast, and this allows you to main alot of that initial dps you had from the pull.
www .worldoflogs. com/reports/u1v2lmosiylb2klr/sum/damageDone/?s=189&e=412#Qeu
This is me doing 375k dps in full normal gear on Iron Juggernaut - it does not get anymore patchworky than that (yeah as a rogue you can stay in melee 100%)
I am not saying anyone can do that or that it is easy, but it is certainly doable.
It's all well and good talking about first wing, but the actual numbers checks aren't relevant till wing 3/4 - which is what I base my required numbers around. If your group is all doing sub 100k you will not clear flex, so not really sure why it's worth mentioning.
Once again it's all well and good saying first wing requires sub 150k (you might be able to scrape the next 4 bosses, too), but past that you're gonna need the region of 200k. The 520 gear argument also seems pretty irrelevant since most people will be 530+ if they are looking at normal right now, or will be within 2 weeks of doing it + flex.
@Mithbandir I know how my spec works. raid dps has never been particularly high as I often raid with social guilds, sometimes I can get "lucky" and have my third elemental / ascendance combo, but that is still nearly 5 minutes into the fight so hardly a burst period.
I like how someone asks for "good DPS" presumably meaning "good enough not to be booted" and it turns into "This is the best number I have *ever* posted relative to my ilevel in all of the logs in my entire playing history, so, I guess you should shoot for that."
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Because ... there are more bosses in the raid than the last 3?
Is a raid something you are supposed to either clear 0 bosses of or all the bosses of?
How To Post In A Thread About DPS
Step 1
Take your average DPS from a kill of a certain boss. Got it? Perfect! Now double it.
That is now your DPS on that boss, remember, the higher the number the better you are.
Step 2
Now you have your snazzy new DPS numbers, throw them around in peoples faces; make sure to use 'key phrases' just so every can truly admire how superior you are. Some examples are:
I can easily sustain 600k on Iron Jugg.
I did 450k and I'm still missing [List Items].
I weren't even paying attention and I did 2.3M on protectors.
Step 3
Facts and evidence are for nerds. As an Elemental Shaman I would be in the top 10% of Elemental Shamans on a single target fight (used Iron Juggernaut Heroic) if I broke 375k. Obviously this is a l2p issue on the player-bases behalf, but don't let that stop you claiming things like "I do 375k in normal gear", the community will see you are just vastly superior to everyone else and give you the praise you deserve.
Crap, lunch break.
Last edited by Anzen; 2014-03-03 at 12:57 PM.
OP asked, which you may not have read:
"Good" for flex in the last wing, assuming you are in there by progressing through flex and not just showing up in 560 gear in a pug, is 150-200k. The group needs 150-ish average. More DPS will not make the boss any deader.Whats good dps for flex?
Min dps for normal?
Bare min for heroic?
On average
Minimum for normal, well, he didn't ask whether it was "minimum required to clear." But assuming he did, 200-ish. Once again, assuming you are progressing and not just showing up in your 570 gear.
Concerning Juggernaut I can dish out roundabout 290k DPS with my Frost Mage @ iLvl 565...as it was said earlier, this fight is pretty much the Patchwerk of MoP.
I would say ~200k DPS and you'll do fine in normal SoO
I've cleared Flex with a team barely topping 130k with the top dps.
Normal? Well, beating enrage timers is probably around 150k, perhaps slightly less.
Heroic? I'm not too sure, but you're probably going to have to have the whole team nudging about 300k or maybe even a little higher. I never pay too much attention to everyone else's dps in my raid group since we've never really had a dps problem.
Did you buy your 14/14 heroic?
Show me logs.
Show me logs.