[Movie/TV/Comic] Marvel Cinematic Universe: A place to talk all things Marvel

[Raynre Valence]

Even with little training I would imagine spider-like reflexes would at least equal Hawkeye.

Also, injured Black Widow handily beats possessed Hawkeye in the first Avengers. Pretty sure putting in blue contacts didn't negate his abilities, and I don't think she got lazy and started stuffing her face with Krispy Kremes after Ultron.

Dunno, just my reactions to a fan list.

EDIT: There we go, Kelimbror fixed the list.

[Al Gorefiend]

Fixing the mess you made.

Come on :P Black Panther that far ahead of Hawkeye? Even without his arrows Hawkeye is a decent sparring combatant. BP is of peak human conditions with vibranium claws, but he isn't super. If Marvel wants to go the mystical route with him and give him the powers of Bast and the herb, then maybe.

As for Cap being high tier. He got rekt by Bucky at the end of WS albeit survived and ultimately won. He can't dodge a speeding bullet. You're saying the best Olympic Athelete IRL could take on Iron Man? Even with the shield, could he really dodge every bullet, repulsor blast and projectile from Stark whizzing overhead at 200mph?

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I think you two are underestimating Hawkeye and overestimating T'Challa. I could hand the victory over to Kelimbror's list if not for those two.

[Gallahadd]

Come on :P Black Panther that far ahead of Hawkeye? Even without his arrows Hawkeye is a decent sparring combatant. BP is of peak human conditions with vibranium claws, but he isn't super. If Marvel wants to go the mystical route with him and give him the powers of Bast and the herb, then maybe.

Black Panther is pretty hardcore, at least on a level with Cappy and Ironman. He isn't peak human, due to being blessed by Bast the Panther goddess, he has super human Strengh, durability, regeneration and reflexes. He also has the knowledge of all the previous Black Panthers, making him a formidable fighter.

Now depending on how they're presenting him in the MCU, he may not have those abilities (look what they did to Thor...), but even without Bast's blessing, he's probably on a level with Cappy and Tony.

[Al Gorefiend]

Black Panther is pretty hardcore, at least on a level with Cappy and Ironman. He isn't peak human, due to being blessed by Bast the Panther goddess, he has super human Strengh, durability, regeneration and reflexes. He also has the knowledge of all the previous Black Panthers, making him a formidable fighter.

Now depending on how they're presenting him in the MCU, he may not have those abilities (look what they did to Thor...), but even without Bast's blessing, he's probably on a level with Cappy and Tony.

Like I said, high tier if he has the power of Bast. And with Dr. Strange and Iron Fist on the horizon they very well may start opening the door to mysticism and religious dieties. But, without the power of Bast he's on par with Cap, who I think are both below Tony. Tony took on the Hulk for crying out loud. He can make "Capbuster" armor just as easily. He doesn't even need to be within a quarter mile radius of BP to blow him to smithereens with a cluster bomb or rain death from above. The trailer shows Bucky and Cap beating him up but take a look at the Sparks blowing out of his repulsor gloves and his armor flickering - it's clear his suits at low power and not capable of flying or unleashing his full Arsenal (probably has to do with the device Bucky straps to Starks chest in the same trailer)

[Poppincaps]

Spider-Man is a street level hero. Sure, he has a HUGE fanbase and usually saves the day in incredible ways, but he doesn't stand a chance against these guys. He is only a teenager with spider reflexes and a wrist-mounted webbing shooter, he could *maybe* stand toe to toe with Hawkeye and Black Widow. But anyone else? come on.

Um what? Spiderman is literally 20 times stronger than Steve Rogers. Physically, the only people on par/higher than him on the list are Iron Man, Vision, and The Hulk. A Spiderman with experience is top high tier. Kelim's placement in midtier is entirely fair due to his inexperience but he's strength is such that you can't put him in low tier.

He's not just a street level hero.

[Al Gorefiend]

Um what? Spiderman is literally 20 times stronger than Steve Rogers. Physically, the only people on par/higher than him on the list are Iron Man, Vision, and The Hulk. A Spiderman with experience is top high tier. Kelim's placement in midtier is entirely fair due to his inexperience but he's strength is such that you can't put him in low tier.

He's not just a street level hero.

I know he has super strength in the comics, but his adaptations in both Sam Raimi's version and Marc Webb's version didn't portray him as such. He was stronger than normal sure but comparative to Cap? Who throws his motorcycle overhead like its nothing?

But at this point they can do whatever the hell they want with Spider-Man because he's had like 3 new origin stories within my lifetime so w/e. They can't seem to tell a compelling spider-man story that isn't his beginnings.

[Poppincaps]

I know he has super strength in the comics, but his adaptations in both Sam Raimi's version and Marc Webb's version didn't portray him as such. He was stronger than normal sure but comparative to Cap? Who throws his motorcycle overhead like its nothing?

But at this point they can do whatever the hell they want with Spider-Man because he's had like 3 new origin stories within my lifetime so w/e. They can't seem to tell a compelling spider-man story that isn't his beginnings.

He stops a god damn moving train in Spiderman 2 bro... like what are you talking about?

[Immitis]

He stops a god damn moving train in Spiderman 2 bro... like what are you talking about?

exactly what i was thinking

[Gallahadd]

He stops a god damn moving train in Spiderman 2 bro... like what are you talking about?

I was about to post exactly this. I'm not his biggest fan, but you've got to acknowledge his stats are pretty hype.

[grettin]

Spider-Man is a street level hero. Sure, he has a HUGE fanbase and usually saves the day in incredible ways, but he doesn't stand a chance against these guys. He is only a teenager with spider reflexes and a wrist-mounted webbing shooter, he could *maybe* stand toe to toe with Hawkeye and Black Widow. But anyone else? come on.

Peter Parker is like Reed Richards level intelligence too, Hank Pym got angry with him when he realised how smart he was and is 'wasting his time' going around punching people. Pretty sure Tony Stark couldn't reverse engineer his web shooters and Reed has said Peter would surpass him if he applied himself.

[Al Gorefiend]

He stops a god damn moving train in Spiderman 2 bro... like what are you talking about?

Oh yeaahhh... he did do that didn't he.

:P

[Zoaric]

EXCLUSIVE: Sony and Marvel Studios are beginning to cast up their Spider-Man reboot. I’m told that actress-singer Zendaya has landed a key role in the ensemble they are building around Tom Holland, who’ll play Peter Parker/Spider-Man in the film to be directed by Jon Watts (Cop Car). She was among the actresses who’ve quietly been testing for roles, and I hear she will play a character named Michelle. Nobody is providing details on whether this is the romantic lead opposite Peter Parker, but it doesn’t sound like it. In the comics, Parker romanced Mary Jane and Gwen.

Holland was the first to be cast so that he could be part of the ensemble in the Joe and Anthony Russo-directed Captain America: Civil War, the first film in which Spidey has cross-pollinated with the established characters in the Marvel Studios universe. That film will be released July 7, 2017, and it’s produced by Amy Pascal and Kevin Feige.

In Zendaya, Sony has hired an up-and-coming actress who was the star of the Disney Channel series Shake It Up! and K.C. Undercover. At Harvey Weinstein’s pre-Oscar party, Zendaya charmed the house as she sang “Neverland” from Weinstein’s stage musical Finding Neverland.

Michelle's the name of the character... Michelle Gonzales, perhaps?


She's the sister of a cop, Vin Gonzales, and went to represent him in court. Later she
becomes Peter Parker’s temporary flatmate and had a drunken one-night stand with
him.

[Immitis]

meh dont really care for her

[Sorshen]

Wait, I thought there's no Hulk in Civil War?
I wish Daisy would make a cameo, even tho they don't want to mix Agents of SHIELD with the movies - she's an Avenger at some point.

[Arrowstormen]

Wait, I thought there's no Hulk in Civil War?

I don't think he is, but there was some weird rumors about him maybe being in there for a very small role, although I don't really see the point in that.

[Immitis]

hulk was going to be in civil war before they decided to put him in thor 3. if we see him at all it would just be a small thor 3 teaser

[Traveler Voltin]

Anyone else want to see shehulk?

[Immitis]

Anyone else want to see shehulk?

id prefer she get a fourth wall breaking comedy show

[Traveler Voltin]

id prefer she get a fourth wall breaking comedy show

Why?
Why not a talk show?

[Immitis]

Why?
Why not a talk show?

not much action happens during a talk show



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preferably on netflix, that way she can do lawer-y crossovers with daredevil