Garrosh drops 553s. If you think anything above that is necessary to kill him, then you are part of the problem, not the solution. Period.
Garrosh drops 553s. If you think anything above that is necessary to kill him, then you are part of the problem, not the solution. Period.
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Because it's his word. Why wouldn't they?
I mean, he did pull 280k DPS on the Sha of Pride without boosting his numbers at all as a 552 ilevel geared warrior. Totally not bullshitting us at all.
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Its as easy to carry now as it was back then.
Whatever. Mob mentality has set in. You people will never see why you're wrong. I'm done wasting my time in here.
Sorry OP, I tried.
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Being afk for a minute or two and then doing a pre-determined(as in, the same exact sequence every Tendon) rotation for 15 seconds, and repeating that 6 times does what exactly to prepare you for Garrosh? Not falling asleep during a long, mostly boring fight is the only thing I can think of. It has nothing to do with difficulty, but Garrosh and Spine aren't the same thing.
Hello Pot, my name is Kettle.
That street goes both ways. If you saw my post earlier, you'd know I'm in sort of the same situation.
The problem is, you aren't willing to compromise - at all. They're the raid leaders, it's their rules. You either follow them, or don't and find a different group.
You can't expect people to do things your way when it's their group.
People have always used other methods of measure before ilvl and achievements.
In TBC and early Wrath (pre-gearscore) it was "Come to me for inspect" or "LF epic-geared tank" for any serious content. People just used the ingame inspect and Armory to see who they would group with and who they wouldn't. The only difference (in TBC at least) is there was no way to tell what bosses they had killed unless you checked/memorized the drop location of everything in the game to get an estimate.
The cloak is a problem because it unfairly punishes people who took a break. The meta gem also does this to a lesser extent. Both combined are such a large DPS boost, and such a large stat upgrade to the point of being ridiculous and flat-out overpowered, that not having them really does gimp you. When it's a weapon only a Hunter can use, or only a STR DPS has, or only a healer can get that takes months during a tier to grind, groups can't demand that everyone has them because they're harder to come by. When everyone can get the legendaries just by playing for the whole expansion, the expectation is that everyone needs to have them or they're not as useful to the raid.
The quest was a mistake. They should go back to a design like Wrath or Cata where it's an item for XYZ class, and takes a few months' doing the raid to get one of them. You never saw people saying "LF Rogue, must have daggers" for DS.
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Dropped back in to say, wow, just wow. You are the epitome of clueless. Haha. I ain't even mad. Just amazed. The people we have to deal with these days...
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...550 from TOT? You realize that H TOT dropped 535 i lvl gear right?
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I cleared DS heroic when it was current too, you know? Spine was not a more mechanically difficult fight than Garrosh in any way.
And 550 was BiS from ToT heroic, because of HTF(549 upgraded) and the ilevel 600 cloak. And by the time people got to Garrosh normal, people added a few SoO normal pieces to that.
Sounds like you will need to form your own group. People can ask what ever they want for their own groups that's reality and other's will still join. It was easier for me to make a friend and make our own group for challenge modes as it allowed us to immediately kick any bads(there are a lot of them) as it's annoying when your time is wasted.
Listen, people have disagreed with you since the start, that's not mob mentality. That's just people disagreeing with you.
You still haven't given any reason for why raid leaders should pick players with lower ilvl and no experience, when they can just as easily being geared players with previous kills.
At least agree to disagree, don't try to insult us just for not sharing your stance on this.
lets put this in terms that is a lot more fair than your equation. you(2200MMR) garrosh is a 1600MMR boss, and player you deny is at 1700MMR.
you deny him simply because you believe he is either undergeared or underskilled. none of those opinions is his fault. it's yours.
Make and lead your own raid or stop bitching. Other people on the realm don't have to justify themselves to you.
PuGs aren't raiding schools, they aren't meant to teach people. PuGs don't last multiple wipes in most cases, so risking wipes by taking inexperienced people is just going to waste the leader's and the rest of the group's time. Guilds teach people, or maybe friends who can get you into guild runs/good PuGs.
please never mention tgear score again i got really mad in wrath when i saw lfm naxx 5800 gs+ or ignore
back on topic sadly is your server thats the problem ive not seen that on the servers ive been on so as the other suggested use open raid tho i personaly dont use it
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