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  1. #701
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    greenland is the only place where reliable samples can be taken.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core#Ice_core_sites

    but keep believing in your silly global warming conspiracies, verified by bought and paid for 'scientists'. it's all about money, and you believers are being scammed.
    Oh yeah that sweet sweet grant money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    greenland is the only place where reliable samples can be taken. or did rachel maddow not fill you in on that bit of info?

    but keep believing in your silly global warming conspiracies, verified by bought and paid for 'scientists'. it's all about money, and you believers are being scammed.
    If every fact brought about by "scientists" were never accepted because they took a paycheck, we wouldnt know much beyond ancient greek thoughts.

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    it's really a shame that Earth is only going to last for 498 more days. So much we all could've accomplished, and now we're going to be living on the true twin of Venus in less than 2 years.

    So sad.

  4. #704
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    greenland is the only place where reliable samples can be taken. or did rachel maddow not fill you in on that bit of info?
    That's just factually wrong. You're apparently not familiar with dendochronology and other methods.
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    but keep believing in your silly global warming conspiracies, verified by bought and paid for 'scientists'.
    Are you sure you're clear on what "conspiracy" means? My inclination is that when there's a wide body of literature consistent with a theory, that it's just science. You're the one propagating conspiracy theories.
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    it's all about money, and you believers are being scammed.
    Who's getting all this money that I'm being scammed out of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    The most common greenhouse gas being water vapor and that our atmosphere being mostly Nitrogen and Oxygen are accurate, but the percentage for that middle one seems off.
    More to the point, water vapor is largely self-regulating, while CO2 isn't, which is why CO2 is the principle control knob for Earth's temperature (source).

  5. #705
    Honestly I think Colbert sums it up perfectly. Fuck it, we're fucked now!

    (I'm kidding but the video is funny!)

  6. #706
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    it's really a shame that Earth is only going to last for 498 more days. So much we all could've accomplished, and now we're going to be living on the true twin of Venus in less than 2 years.
    This is why people like you are so easy to dismiss out of hand. If you craft a bizarre strawman, why should anyone think anything other than, "well, that guy's fucking ignorant, moving on with my night"?

  7. #707
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Unsourced chart seems legit.
    Anyone who has any science education would look at unsourced chart and immediately think... well, something is going on there.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    This is why people like you are so easy to dismiss out of hand. If you craft a bizarre strawman, why should anyone think anything other than, "well, that guy's fucking ignorant, moving on with my night"?
    human caused climate change is a joke, and should be treated as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    Anyone who has any science education would look at unsourced chart and immediately think... well, something is going on there.
    Science channel needs to change its motto from question everything to source everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    human caused climate change is a joke, and should be treated as such.
    I guess I'm going to refer to my previous post and follow my own advice.

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    more facts for you:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I guess I'm going to refer to my previous post and follow my own advice.
    battle strawman with ad hominem! works every time!

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    facts aren;t really determined by an un sourced fancy pic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    fancy pic...
    As a graphic designer this offends me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    human caused climate change is a joke, and should be treated as such.
    how is it a joke when there is a general consensus with the scientific community that HUMANITY is affecting the climate on earth?

    is it really that inconceivable to think we are not having any effect on this planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    As a graphic designer this offends me.
    3rd grade presentation slide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    3rd grade presentation slide?
    Shit the NSA does better graphics on their power points.

  17. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    battle strawman with ad hominem! works every time!
    I actually did address your previous arguments, at least to the extent that they existed. It's not ad hominem to realize that someone's so wildly uninformed that conversing with them is just flat out pointless. I can only have so much Dunning-Kruger in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrulerxxx View Post
    how is it a joke when there is a general consensus with the scientific community that HUMANITY is affecting the climate on earth?

    is it really that inconceivable to think we are not having any effect on this planet?
    people thought people were super special centuries ago, as well. when they thought Earth was the center of the universe.

    guess what? we aren't special, especially leftist shills.

  19. #719
    People keep talking about graphs and images being unsourced. Where exactly is the source that says that the majority of climate change is directly due to mankind's contribution?
    “Humanism means that the man is the measure of all things...But it is not only that man must start from himself in the area of knowledge and learning, but any value system must come arbitrarily from man himself by arbitrary choice.” - Francis A. Schaeffer

  20. #720
    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    more facts for you:
    Your picture sucks. It forgot Global Cooling.

    (This is a sarcasm post, to be clear. I explained that ACGG has been in the scientific literature longer than Global Cooling a few pages back).

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysaber View Post
    guess what? we aren't special, especially leftist shills.
    Galileo, Copernicus, and all of them were leftist shills?

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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