2 Pets only during stamped?

[Azortharion]

Stamp = 10/15% hunter's Dps (malko/iron). 100% Legit.

Azor stop acting like a child and dont be so nasty. it's an obvious fact.


worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-fhb529slziazq0zd/sum/damageDone/?s=6624&e=6882

RNG again and again.

Yes, actually, that is 100% legit. It's normal. Check any other log from a top parse not using exploits.

Unless you believe that all high-parsing hunters in the world are exploiters, of course.

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Figures are here. Be sensible or at least more scientific !

[Puri]

These threads are so incredibly funny. Every single day it's about someone who found a new way to exploit stampede to get a 0.5% increase in dps on farmraids no player gives a shit about.

The funny part is not finding the exploit, but people who find someone exploiting because it seems all they do all day is analyze the top 10 hunter logs.

So please continue...

[Keltas]

Jesus christ, I checked my own logs for malkorok to compare, and I had 4 procs on my last Malkorok. And a longer fight as well. He had a total of 11 TED procs. I want the same RNGjuice he's having.

I will break out the knee pads if they get me 11 trinket procs in this long of a fight.

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These threads are so incredibly funny. Every single day it's about someone who found a new way to exploit stampede to get a 0.5% increase in dps on farmraids no player gives a shit about.

The funny part is not finding the exploit, but people who find someone exploiting because it seems all they do all day is analyze the top 10 hunter logs.

So please continue...

It is crucial in PVE HL to check what other hunter are doing in order to improve your own DPS. I dont consider him as one of the top 10 hunter logs, far from it.

Maybe as a pandaren monk, you dont need to check what other monk are doing

[Deleted]

Stamp = 10/15% hunter's Dps (malko/iron). 100% Legit.

Azor stop acting like a child and dont be so nasty. it's an obvious fact.


worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-fhb529slziazq0zd/sum/damageDone/?s=6624&e=6882

RNG again and again. His stamp is doing nearly 50% of the dps of his MAIN pet and 15 % of HIS overall damage. Nice RNG dude.

Probably if you stopped using worldologs and used warcraftlogs you would see he's true parse. That log is completely broken in wol, have fun checking it in http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...Ffaw3#fight=29 where he did 30k less dps and he's stampede dmg is completely normal.

Can we please close this thread? It has be proven that he hasn't cheated and this witch hunt about stampede exploiters is getting out of control. Just let blizz fix it.

[Deleted]

Figures are here. Be sensible or at least more scientific !

The science here is that trinket procs are random so if you get 100 guys the guy on top is going
to be the luckiest with the RNG. Winning the lottery is a 1 in 8 million chance, but someone wins
it honestly almost every week.

A debuff hack like 25% haste or something doesn't actually make that much difference. You might
expect 4 procs on average without the debuff, 5 with it. Trinket procs alone tell you almost nothing.

[Huntermyth]

maybe, just maybe he/she has bm and say sv as 2 specs. he has 3 spirit beasts and 2 ''Normal'' pets at his current pet menu.

if he changes spec from bm to sv and uses stampede, only 2 of those pets will be summoned because sv can not summon spirit beasts.

entirely possible but don't know if it is the case here.

[slickwilly]

Such high integrity in the hunter group.

[Azortharion]

maybe, just maybe he/she has bm and say sv as 2 specs. he has 3 spirit beasts and 2 ''Normal'' pets at his current pet menu.

if he changes spec from bm to sv and uses stampede, only 2 of those pets will be summoned because sv can not summon spirit beasts.

entirely possible but don't know if it is the case here.

No.

He just had several pets named the same.

[Inphernal]

Didnt actually know that this was the exploiter forums..

Why all of a sudden have people started careing about exploiting and isnt it against the rules to discuss this?

[Azortharion]

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...spells=debuffs

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...&ability=90273

Explain how a pet gets hit by a frostbolt and gets a debuff on heroic malk.

Obvious exploiter is obvious.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=46987

Yeah, what a str0ng exploit, decreasing run speed by 50% like that.

Oh, and then there's the fact that his Stampede pets didn't do abnormal damage. Even if you found an exploitation debuff it wouldn't matter because his damage is legit anyway.

l0ls. Not sure if you cling to the notion just because you don't wanna look like a moron after your asinine first post to this thread. I'm all for making morons look like morons, though.

Edit: -snip- Please don't post links to clearly exploited logs, even if it is for illustrative/educational purposes.]

-that- is abnormal Stampede damage (and he still couldn't do 500k DPS with optimal fight length, top lel)

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=2 this isn't (same Stamp dmg as the guy being accused, please do find me his exploit)

Nor is this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=9 (same dmg, again)

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=5

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...done&source=27

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...done&source=12

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...done&source=13

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...done&source=12

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...-done&source=1 (note the killtime)

Or this: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...done&source=12

[Azortharion]

Using an unintended debuff on his stampede pet in Siege of Orgrimmar when the debuff is only intended to be used in AV, Hillisbard foothills and Echo Isle = exploit usage. Therefor this guys ranks do not count because there were exploits used in the making of these logs.

A lot of wowhead debuffs don't display all the effects for some reason, especially for older content sometimes. This could easily be one of them. For all we know it could be a 1000% damage increase.

Regardless of what exactly the debuff does or whether or not it's gamebreaking or not or if it increases dps or not is irrelevant, it's still an unintended debuff on his stampede pets which by definition, is an exploit. This guy is an exploiter and these logs are not legit.

Prove that the mob's Frostbolt increases damage/haste then come back to me.

And no, lol, an exploit is not an exploit unless it gives you an advantage, which it didn't.

His rank does not count because.. Why? He had a debuff on his pet that did nothing for it except HINDER it if anything?

[Trollragemore]

A legal exploit isn't a cheater, its a exploitation, this thread reminds me of my days of playing warhammer 40k and ppl exploiting the rules to win, aka as min/maxing!

going to throw out a old GW term for exploiters=Beardy Gitz!

[Azortharion]

How about you tell your friend to come back and try to rank again on H malk without using unintended debuffs on his stampede pets then come back to me?

He's exploiting the logs because the fight was not intended for pets summoned by stampede to have debuffs on them, therefor these logs are not legit because his stampede pets have UNINTENDED debuffs on them.

Bottom line is he did not do the fight the way it was intended to do. No Developer who designed the fight intended for pets summoned by stampede to have debuffs on them. I'm crossing this guy off on my list of decent ranked hunters because he can't rank on H malk without using unintended debuffs on his pet.

He's a cheater and an exploiter.

If you don't find any of the stuff you are saying completely moronic yourself I don't know where to start.

Are you implying that he couldn't do the same if he didn't have that debuff which did nothing to boost his damage? With the same RNG? That he would do less damage if it wasn't there? Are you blatantly retarded? Do you not see how little sense this makes, at all? I don't get it.

I don't know the guy, but some no-names who never rank anyway trying to strip his legitimacy because they're mad that they can't rank at all is hilarious yet aggravatingly idiotic to me.

[Azortharion]

Well until I see him rank on the fight without using unintended debuffs then I will consider otherwise.


Are you trying to call me retarded? If so you could just man up and say it.


You realize many members of the top guilds of Exodus, Blood Legion and other higher ranking guilds than yourself have personally called me the best ele shaman in the world by their elemental shaman? So I'm not sure where you got this from.

Yeah, your average percentile of 46th is truly next-level, I'm sure Blood Legion would love to have you.

Oh, and here you go: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done

[Kissthebaby]

So many elitest on these forums, guys be nice

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You realize many members of the top guilds of Exodus, Blood Legion and other higher ranking guilds than yourself have personally called me the best ele shaman in the world by their elemental shaman? So I'm not sure where you got this from.

Sorry but I can't stop laughing.

[Azortharion]

That's because I don't care about ranking on farm content as much as you do. But for all means, keep exploiting.

And just so you know, I was actually offered a chance to join Blood Legion, Exodus and Overture (and many other top guilds) a while ago but I had to decline because I'm on a very busy schedule irl and couldn't make their raid times hence why I casually raid. But last I checked you never got invited to join Method when you clearly can make their raid times so I don't know why you're trying to degrade me .

Farm content? You're 12/14 HC.

You aren't just shit for farm, you're shit in general. http://raidbots.com/epeenbot/us/mal'ganis/juesh/

Sub 30th percentile since October 2k13.

[Kissthebaby]

And just so you know, I was actually offered a chance to join Blood Legion, Exodus and Overture.

Nice troll. But enough with the bit.