How long would you continue to raid without getting a gear upgrade?

[purplekayak]

How long would you continue to raid without getting a gear upgrade? I'm talking about normal/heroic raids where gear is distributed by a loot council.

[Deleted]

depends really, if i was just unlucky and the loot i need never dropped i'd carry on.

but if the guild was getting new recruits, or someone who hadn't been raiding as long as me got a piece of loot over me i'd probs give up. (this has happened to me before) its why i much prefer a guild with a dkp system in place.

[Darsithis]

If I had a raid team that used Loot Council and I was regularly passed up for upgrades I needed to give them as marginal upgrades or sidegrades to favored raiders, not long.

[Deleted]

As of right now? 8 weeks and counting.

[Chaosturn]

I raid to make progress with friends, not for ego boosts

[eErike]

Depends why I am not getting the loot.

Is it becuase someone else needs it to? I don't mind

New raider getting boosted and needs the gear a lot? no thanks.

[Aphrel]

Until however long it takes for blizz to release new raidcontent. thou as of now it hink my last upgrade loot dropped sometime 4 months ago. we simply arent getting any wf belts or offhands...

[purplekayak]

It's been nearly 3 months for me. My guild has been 14/14H for about 4 months. The only things I need are heroic warforged. When something does drop its usually given to newer players with lower ilvl. Am I just being selfish?

[Deleted]

Until i get something ;p... i remember my worst bout of loot luck was during cata, doing Hc BWD and BoT at the time (as a Guardian Druid all thru cata). After 2 months i ended up killing Nef Hc (10) with 6 or 7 dungeon blues, a couple of crafteds and only a couple of raid gear because gear just would not drop for me pff ;p.. My weapon i had was the polearm from Lost City if Tolvar dungeon lol, even the weapon from Zul Gurub would not drop (day after day from when it came out). My next weapon was to be Fandrals Flamescythe (Hc lol), i spent almost a year with a shitty blue weapon lol, real bad luck.. still... went on to kill Rag Hc shortly after and i git given the Fireblood hawk for being so fekkin awesome in shit gear ;p

[Deleted]

It's been nearly 3 months for me. My guild has been 14/14H for about 4 months. The only things I need are heroic warforged. When something does drop its usually given to newer players with lower ilvl. Am I just being selfish?

i wouldn't say selfish, getting gear is the only form of character progression at max level, so its only natural to want the best gear possible for your character.

[toomes211]

Gear is only the means to an end for me - progression. As long as my raid keeps progressing and the reason why I'm not getting loot isn't because the loot distribution is unfair, getting gear is only a path to what I really want. Killing heroic bosses.

[Ugum]

If I was in an active guild with people I was friendly with? I would raid until everyone got everything they wanted.

Seeing as how I don't have anyone like that left in game, I raided until I got all my Flex gear that I wanted then un-subbed.

[Deleted]

How long would you continue to raid without getting a gear upgrade? I'm talking about normal/heroic raids where gear is distributed by a loot council.

I raid for the sake of raiding, not for the loot.

[Razecog]

Untill the end of time. If you raid for loot you're doing it very wrong.

[Tarien]

As long as the loot is going to someone who can use it I don't mind, I tend to think of the guild as a whole rather than just myself. Also at the moment with 4 upgrade levels per item, the legendary cloak, celestials, ordos, crafted gear and warforged seals there is a lot I can be doing to improve the gear on any of my characters at any given time.

[Deleted]

Few months before i stop
Hunter gear in your raid is miracle i get most of mine one from the coins lol

[Shiira]

Gear isn't what I'm raiding for, it's just a means to the end of enabling access to harder content.

So forever.

[CandyCotton Marshmallows]

If I had a raid team that used Loot Council and I was regularly passed up for upgrades I needed to give them as marginal upgrades or sidegrades to favored raiders, not long.

If it happened that way, that isn't a proper loot council and more like loot funneling to friends and family. A proper loot council should be looking at several things; where will the upgrade benefit the raid group the most and that person's reliability/loyalty to the group (will they be there week(s) from now and on time?). Who does the piece benefit the most overall on an individual scale (side grade/minor upgrade versus replacing a bad piece of gear; aka, who gets the most largest throughput gain from the piece). Tanks and healers first, unless wiping to enrage timers; if wiping to enrage timers, the ones proven to perform and execute both their class priorities and learn/adapt/react to fights the most for the benefit of the group (best team players and personal skill).

If your loot council funnels gear to a significant other or friend; or officers/RL/GM first over what is best for group, then it is not a true loot council. With a good loot council, there is no need for any of the point based systems either.


In the past; I've raided quite a while without getting an upgrade. I raided for fun and/or because I enjoyed the people in my guild I raided with. I've gone months waiting on certain drops. If I raided for gear, it'd be a shallow pursuit and I'd stop rather quickly (which, for those people, is also why having alternative gearing paths is a necessity; it allows them to know they can work towards the goal of increasing power; even if not the optimized raid drop).

I've been in bad loot council guilds and good ones. I've seen the point systems abused and misused. I've seen people just have fun together and not be loot whores at all. The last one is the best one, tbh.

[Ylera]

dont really care, gear is just a means to an end. i'd keep raiding until content is cleared.

we just roll on loot with members > trials and mainspec > offspec. no one really cares too much about loot in my guild (pretty mature people around) so it works well.

[Racthoh]

loot distribution is as serious a min/max challenge as assembling your own gear. so, under the pretense of being in a good guild who understand this? i could probably go infinite amount of time being last in line for dem phat lootz.

i'd rather focus on getting the most performance out of the gear i've got. if i can do that, i'm happy.

it's better to be the least geared player on a team than one of the most under-performing. that said, if you can use a piece of loot, speak up. doesn't matter if you actually get it, but nobody can blame you for dealing x% less damage than player y if you're making the most of what you have and aren't purposefully ignoring opportunities for an upgrade.

your guild won't, or shouldn't be angry with you for being undergeared. they should, and probably will be angry with you for not playing well, which is a completely different issue and may be the real reason for your being such a low priority. it's your job to just play and play well. be happy with that instead of unhappy over things out of your control. the point is to kill the boss, not your friends on the meters.