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  1. #241
    im kinda laughing at the comment of A list actors. seriously people think and A-list actor makes a movie good? yeah it draws people into the theatres but if those people don't like it, theyre gonna tell their friends, and that quick spike turns into a plummet.

    did anyone ever see Mars Attacks? it actually has a seriously loaded list of actors, between jack Nicholson, pierce brosnan, sarah Jessica parker, Michael j fox, glenn close, danny DeVito(not huge but he was used a lot in the 90s) jim brown, Natalie portman, jack black.

    That movie was loaded and guess what.... it was awful..... like train crash in slow motion awful.

    famous actors /= great movies
    great acting=great movies
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  2. #242
    Nothing against A-listers, but most of the premium they get paid, which is substantial, is basically advertising. Their names get people interested in the movie. This movie is entitled "Warcraft." It's got plenty of name recognition all on its own. It doesn't need an A-lister. The money that would otherwise be spent on a name can thus be spent on the actual production.

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Despite typing lots of words you've managed to say very little and have completely avoided my question. Why are people that no longer play the game going to be interested in seeing this movie? If nostalgia is going to be the main motivation why hasn't it resulted in players trying out the game again? Why are they staying away in their millions?

    There is every chance that Warcraft could be a good movie but in order for it to successful it needs to attract more than existing and ex-players.
    If you don't even care to read my words why repeat the question?

    Because people will remember how they play(ed) in Azeroth. It is not needed to pay an ACTIVE subscription to be interested in the Warcraft movie because you still have your personal memories of the MMORPG.

    You just are ignorant. As a well known hate boy I think you ARE freightened WOW will still dominate this scene for years on end.

    Those images of a 3D world in Azeroth will ALWAYS be on (ex) players minds.

    Hell I read Tokien's books 35 years ago and YEARS later I was soooo interested in seeing the movies.

    Come out of your anti Blizzard cave for once.

    Actually you become VERY sloppy lately. First by not even knowing WOW's global yearly revenue not only came from ATVI, but forgetting the Chinese NetEase, now discussing things that are SO obvious it is not even funny anymore.

    Come on man, pull yourself together and trash talk WOW/Blizzard with DECENT arguments at least.
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  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by BenBos View Post
    If you don't even care to read my words why repeat the question?

    Because people will remember how they play(ed) in Azeroth. It is not needed to pay an ACTIVE subscription to be interested in the Warcraft movie because you still have your personal memories of the MMORPG.

    You just are ignorant. As a well known hate boy I think you ARE freightened WOW will still dominate this scene for years on end.

    Those images of a 3D world in Azeroth will ALWAYS be on (ex) players minds.

    Hell I read Tokien's books 35 years ago and YEARS later I was soooo interested in seeing the movies.

    Come out of your anti Blizzard cave for once.

    Actually you become VERY sloppy lately. First by not even knowing WOW's global yearly revenue not only came from ATVI, but forgetting the Chinese NetEase, now discussing things that are SO obvious it is not even funny anymore.

    Come on man, pull yourself together and trash talk WOW/Blizzard with DECENT arguments at least.
    I repeated the question because you did not answer it.

    And again you fail to do so. You repeatedly claim that WOW is engraved on the hard disk of our conciousness, or similar nonsense, and that there are, I quote, "dozens of millions" who you seem to think are falling over themselves to give money for anything Warcraft related despite evidence pointing to the exact opposite.

    I am simply asking the question why people that no longer play the game will be interested in watching this movie. Maybe this will be third time lucky and you will answer it rather going on some puerile rant. If they are that interested in Warcraft that they will be sold on the movie by name alone why are they not satisfying their nostalgia by, you know, playing the game?

    For someone that is supposedly old enough to have read Tolkien 35 years ago you sure do write some utterly childish things.

    No, BenBos I questioned where a third party got their WOW revenue figures from. It is SO obvious why are you seemingly unable to explain it?

    If you notice I wrote "There is every chance that Warcraft could be a good movie..." I do not see how that is trash talking Blizzard.

  5. #245
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  6. #246
    Budgets and big names don't necessarily make movies better. It probably won't win any awards but as long as it releases in China it'll make millions.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by taishar68 View Post
    The track record for video games is spotty; some did well at the box office (Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil series), but most are poorly written and acted, and I have always had a sense that most of the people involved in the films did not respect the source material; when Jackson started production on LOTR, he had everyone involved read the books who hadn't already, to insure that there was an emotional investment, and there was also a respect for the passion that LOTR fans have...I can't really see that happening on say, Bloodrayne.
    +600 pages of both Rise of the Horde and The Last Guardian is a lot, but still worth it.

  8. #248
    Quote Originally Posted by Valyrian Stormclaw View Post
    It's not a bad sign. LOTR had - at the time - a bunch of unknowns in it. WC movie is the same, but it all comes down to proper management and directing. If they can pull that off with passion - it'll be just as great.
    Each of the LOTR movies had the same budget as Warcraft... except back in 2000 when they filmed it. 14 years of inflation later and $100 million can barely pay for an Adam Sandler comedy.

    Basically Warcraft has the same production budget and capacity as the Dungeons and Dragons movie from back in 2000 - about $50 million dollars of 2000 money or $100 million in 2014 money.

    It's going to be a very poorly done movie unfortunately unless Blizzard ponies up another $100 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drilnos View Post
    Nothing against A-listers, but most of the premium they get paid, which is substantial, is basically advertising. Their names get people interested in the movie. This movie is entitled "Warcraft." It's got plenty of name recognition all on its own. It doesn't need an A-lister. The money that would otherwise be spent on a name can thus be spent on the actual production.
    I don't believe anyone outside of WoW fans know what Warcraft is. Ask any random 10 people and I bet maybe 1 will recognize the name.

    There was a video where a guy just went around and asked every person he ran into about World of Warcraft and it took something like 58 people before one knew what it was even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stgeorge78 View Post
    I don't believe anyone outside of WoW fans know what Warcraft is. Ask any random 10 people and I bet maybe 1 will recognize the name.

    There was a video where a guy just went around and asked every person he ran into about World of Warcraft and it took something like 58 people before one knew what it was even.
    Indeed, Warcraft is hardly a mainstream brand name. Those who know about it are most likely either fans of the franchise, or gaming interested to the extent of frequenting gaming websites. Having seen the TV commercial of an expansion is hardly enough to have any sort of impression of the franchise or even know what it is.

  10. #250
    Quote Originally Posted by stgeorge78 View Post
    There was a video where a guy just went around and asked every person he ran into about World of Warcraft and it took something like 58 people before one knew what it was even.
    B-b-but Warcraft is the biggest brand in the wooooorld, according to cheeto-splattered dipshits who live in a gamer/geek bubble.

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Logonov View Post
    im kinda laughing at the comment of A list actors. seriously people think and A-list actor makes a movie good? yeah it draws people into the theatres but if those people don't like it, theyre gonna tell their friends, and that quick spike turns into a plummet.
    Or they like it and tell all their friends and ticket sales sky rocket? A big name does not guarantee success but it will guarantee a bigger audience imho.

  12. #252
    How anyone thinks this movie is going to be anything but awful is beyond me.

  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    Or they like it and tell all their friends and ticket sales sky rocket? A big name does not guarantee success but it will guarantee a bigger audience imho.
    in this day and age hollywood superstars are a thing of the past. blockbusters live and die by brand and viewer/critic hype. No cares about will smith, brad pitt, or tom cruise anymore. People just want to see their favorite brands or whatever thing that they loved turned into a movie.

    P.S. Even director hypes a movie more than a-list actors do. People will line up to see the next christopher nolan movie over the next *insert* generic a-list actor's movie nowadays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelightthatstrays View Post
    How anyone thinks this movie is going to be anything but awful is beyond me.
    Not hard to get beyond you it seems then.
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  15. #255
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda11 View Post
    in this day and age hollywood superstars are a thing of the past. blockbusters live and die by brand and viewer/critic hype. No cares about will smith, brad pitt, or tom cruise anymore. People just want to see their favorite brands or whatever thing that they loved turned into a movie.

    P.S. Even director hypes a movie more than a-list actors do. People will line up to see the next christopher nolan movie over the next *insert* generic a-list actor's movie nowadays.
    I disagree entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    I disagree entirely.
    hmm. care to explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelightthatstrays View Post
    How anyone thinks this movie is going to be anything but awful is beyond me.
    Well, they did get Dunan Jones to direct it, which leaves open the possibility for good and/or successful, at least. Personally, I'm betting it'll be closer to Dungeon Siege than The Hobbit.
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  18. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda11 View Post
    hmm. care to explain?
    I have went over this point half a dozen times in this thread. Hollywood has always been driven by A-List stars. Do you really think they would pay some clown $20,000,000 to star in the film if they did not think they would pull in much more at the box office? When you ask people 'Did you see the clip for that new Max Max film' the first thing most people ask is.. Oh who is in it? That is my experience anyways.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    I have went over this point half a dozen times in this thread. Hollywood has always been driven by A-List stars. Do you really think they would pay some clown $20,000,000 to star in the film if they did not think they would pull in much more at the box office? When you ask people 'Did you see the clip for that new Max Max film' the first thing most people ask is.. Oh who is in it? That is my experience anyways.
    i agree that a-listers will have their draw to a blockbuster movie, but i think brands have a bigger draw then a-listers do nowadays. To use a recent example with a mega super a-lister like tom cruise in edge of tomorrow. A great movie, but who the fuck even knows what that movie is (apparently it's based off some japanese manga or soemthing. don't quote me). Think if a movie of that quality is with a brand more recognizeable it would make way more money. BTW go see that movie if it is still in your local theatre. It is a great movie.

  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda11 View Post
    i agree that a-listers will have their draw to a blockbuster movie, but i think brands have a bigger draw then a-listers do nowadays. To use a recent example with a mega super a-lister like tom cruise in edge of tomorrow. A great movie, but who the fuck even knows what that movie is (apparently it's based off some japanese manga or soemthing. don't quote me). Think if a movie of that quality is with a brand more recognizeable it would make way more money. BTW go see that movie if it is still in your local theatre. It is a great movie.
    I am not discounting brand importance. My only point in this thread has been that a big star or two would not hurt the film. I have seen Edge of Tomorrow and it was pretty good.... right up till that ending. I think that film sort of proves my point a bit. It is new new Tom Cruise film to most people. You can ask people have you seen the new Tom Cruise film? And they will know what film you mean.

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