Originally Posted by
Octa
This is something a lot of people don't seem to get. People pugging now are largely in 2 groups.
1) Have not cleared content, have not raided much, have geared up quite a bit through celestials, ordos, vp upgrades, a few normal bosses, etc and now want to try their hand at full clearing SoO.
2) People who have cleared it and can't be bothered dealing with people doing anything subpar so they bring people who outgear it by a landslide to make it a non issue.
As the players who are willing to put in the time, deal with the content, figure things out and work a little bit do things, the next wave come in. You now have the players who legitimately think you need 570 ilvl to do Garrosh and then you have those who have done it enough times to not want to put work in again and 570 ilvl serves what they want to get done.
There are others running but those are the two camps you'll find most often on things like Open Raid.
I have done hundreds, possibly thousands, of challenge modes throughout the expansion and you're seeing the exact same thing with challenge modes now. First it was "know your class and have all consumables." Next it was "know your class, have all consumables and be 9/9 on a character already." Now it is "know your class, have all consumables, be 9/9 already and have 22+ gem sockets."