"El Psy Kongroo!" Hearthstone Moderator
I think that people should stop acting the victim and understand that everyone has problems. We're all suffering, why should women's issues be more immediate than anyone else's? Because we still live in a society that treats women as fragile people who are more in need of protection than men, which ironically, is something that most feminists are against. This is also why breast cancer gets tons of awareness, while prostate cancer gets none. And don't get me wrong, I'm not one for men's rights either. I think everyone in the first world should calm down and be grateful for the wonderful freedom that they have, and understand that we all have our burdens to deal with.
And sexism is not hating women. Guess none hates eachother.
correct Feminism does not equate to man hating
problem the movement has is man haters call them selves feminist, and use feminism to justify and give creditability to their man hatred so it gave the movement a bad name and stereotype because those man haters have the loudest voice
not to dissimilar to the conservative movement were a very small minority are racist there for it gave everyone in that moment the label, but what can you do about it you can not force the racist ones not to call them selves conservatives just like you can not force the man haters not to call them selves feminist
Labels are powerful things. As long as gender equality is looked at by one side of the spectrum, that label will be a problem. Both feminism and men's rights is a really poor way of solving problems, and even though Feminists tend to hate men's rights they essentially created men's rights by leaving this gaping whole in serious issues they never want to address.
Until both can come together with common sense, you will always need one and the other.
However, in other parts of the world it's still a big problem, but human rights is a problem to begin with in those places.
I would be more inclined to believe 3rd wave feminists were benign if they didn't falsify statistics, vilify men, and attempt to pollute the sciences with the idiocy that is the Feminist Sciences (Ironically they chose to start with Biology, which is a general field in which women are thriving).
Deathknight's do it using disease, blood and the power of the unholy. Warlocks do it with dark demons by their side. Mages do it with summoned arcane powers. Druids do it using the forces of nature. Rogues do it through stealth, poison's, shadows and....from behind. Paladins do it by calling to the light for aid. Shamans do it with the help of the elements. Priests do it through the holy light.
But warriors....
Warriors just fucking do it.
Honestly I think they need to just rebrand the movement to egalitarianism, though it's harder to say. It's at the core the same thing, has heavy support by both genders, and removes some of the taint the feminazis have put on the entire movement with their equality+ attitudes.
As far as why we should care about a celebrity championing something?
I say it depends on the celebrity. Miss Watson is a smart young woman who decided to pursue college even though she had enough money to live on for the rest of her life. That earns her my respect and so I'll pay attention to what she has to say.
If it was Kim Kardashian on the other hand? Who gives a shit.
No but Feminism is a label hijacked by manhaters and femalesupremacists
I agree that we should be pushing for female rights in places where women are seen as nothing but property, but that's not in the west so it's a bit hard to root for "Feminism" when some loud mouthed priviliged piece of shit shouts "MISOGONY, RAPE, ALL MEN ARE PIGS" each time someone disagrees with her, here in the west. Rather than going onto the streets declaring women are opressed in countries where they aren't these "Feminists" should focus their efforts on actually getting equal rights in countries that actually need "Feminism"
PS: If you actually are for Equality and not just women's rights you shouldn't be calling yourself Feminists
Couldn't we just rename feminism to what it should be; Equal Rights Activist?
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You'll notice the people who say feminism is all about man-hating or that it was hijacked are often the people who perpetuate the stereotype itself.
Well, I wouldn't be shocked if people just changed their opinion based on looks, but I'm hoping there's people that are her fans because of more than her looks.
And I didn't just mean changing minds, I meant grabbing attention in general. Do you think this thread would of existed if an expert said something? If anything, it would of been people laughing saying "Well DUH, why are they even an expert in this field when it took them so long to point out the obvious"
No one's dispensable in my opinion.
"El Psy Kongroo!" Hearthstone Moderator
Deathknight's do it using disease, blood and the power of the unholy. Warlocks do it with dark demons by their side. Mages do it with summoned arcane powers. Druids do it using the forces of nature. Rogues do it through stealth, poison's, shadows and....from behind. Paladins do it by calling to the light for aid. Shamans do it with the help of the elements. Priests do it through the holy light.
But warriors....
Warriors just fucking do it.
There will never be equality. Case in point "women and children first" and "a woman can hit a man and its funny but if a man hits a woman he goes to jail". There will never be true equality especially when feminism only wants the positives of equality with none of the negatives that would come with it.
Also if they REALLY wanted more equality for females they are barking up the wrong tree by doing it in western nations. They wanna really try and make a difference they should go to the middle east where women can go to jail for driving a car and need 4 other MALE witnesses to provide proof that she really was raped and also in the middle east women are sent to prison for getting raped.
Last edited by Xires; 2014-09-22 at 07:41 PM.