Would you like to see reforging again?

[Deleted]

Well, the Hit/Expertise cap was far from fun, but, you are kind of forced (talking about Mage in my case) into 1 spec. As a Frost Mage, your goal is 'must have multistrike on it'. So, you go for gear with multistrike. If you ever want to play Fire or Arcane (ofcourse, when they get their much needed buff), tough luck, you now have the completly wrong stats, which you can only adjust with a handfull of gems and enchants. With reforging you can still make something out of it, its never ideal, but the way it is now, you get punished for prioritising a certain stat. If you want to change spec, you basicly need to regear your character.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the stupidity of hit caps (read; let mr robot do the mathematics) are gone, but I wish I could still have some 'control' over my own gear. The few gem slots and enchants are not enough to my taste. Yes, reforging would still be prioritizing your strongest stat, but it would make all gear much more viable for each playable spec.

A pure DPS class annoyed about multiple gear.. tell that to the druid that likes pvp and pve before gear could be used for several specs ;p
I saw yesterday that Blizz made PvP plate with bonus armor which is the best stat for gladiator warriors. Buying the bonus armor cloak means that I will stay gladiator warrior for the next 10 or more weeks because there are several items with that stat. Arms and fury both need mastery which is the worst stat for gladi warrior and you can't build up two equips that quickly in pvp due to conquest caps. If blizzard decides that gladiator is too stronk (which it is compared to arms and fury) and nerfs it, this pvp season could end for all warriors just a couple of weeks into it. Hows that for bad?

[Deleted]

No, it was a stupid mechanic and it serves no purpose.

You get a piece of gear. You run a simulator. It tells you how to reforge. You go to a reforger. You pay the 20g. You use that item.

That's how it goes, with every single piece of gear you get, for the entire time reforging exists. That isn't fun, it isn't interesting, and it serves virtually no purpose.

Because different speccs have different stat weights. Now you have to build toward a certain specc and have different gear sets. Atm you are pretty polarized in your choices since we only have one raid, but to have a bit more control over stats from raids and CM gear etc would be nice.

[Deleted]

Nah, Reforging is just a plaster.

They need to remove Versatility for starters, and then balance all the other secondary stats for each spec, so there's no more 'best' and 'trash' stats. Then people can gear with whatever they personally find more enjoyable. Then the loot is actually fun again.

[PrairieChicken]

Yes. Hate seeing everytime versatility in my gear and go "oh crap vers trash again"

Also I feel like I significantly lost my ability to customize. Now I can only use whatever drops for me... and I kind of lost my identity as spec with emphasis in certain stat.

[Deleted]

Personally I'd like to see it back, but that is because I know I could glean an advantage from it that not everyone will be able to work out.

Currently I'd reforge all non inherent Multistrike gear to Multistrike (Frost mage) & all Multistrike gear to haste (Reforging the other stat).

But running a sim to check if my crit or versatility should be reforged to Multistrike on my i630 ring - now that is where the 0.1% advantage comes in for using simcraft over an addon

[PosPosPos]

Yes, either this or reduce stat variety on gear across the board.

[Txiv]

Yes, either this or reduce stat variety on gear across the board.

People saying this I think are missing the point. The game is better when you have a mix of secondaries. The scaling issues of past were the result of some specs having one secondary that was ridiculous my good and being able to stack it. Think arcane Mage and mastery. Being able to finagle over 100% in SoO made it a ridiculously strong option.

People talk about adding it back in like it's going to give JUST THEIR TOON and advantage. Like somehow it's only going to benefit them and catapult them to the top of the heap. It won't, everyone will just drill down on their chosen secondary. Only now those with better scaling will have a bigger advantage over those who's secondaries are more balanced.

[anaxie]

Except this isn't mop. Stats are much closer in value and thresholds snapshotting, and caps, are no longer a thing. People are still in this mentality of "I only want multistrike, everything else is shit.". And this is a different time.

Lolbthis is fucking false no they aren't. Ret specifically mastery nearly beats stregth and haste n vers are like half the value

[Deleted]

NO thanks.

[Kegler]

Hell no, horrible forced min-max function.

Thrilled its gone.

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They need to remove Versatility completely. Then make sure the other secondary stats are all worthwhile. I like not having to reforge all my gear every time i loot something to keep 14 years old from yelling at me in Heroics.

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I'm also glad about the simplification of gemming and enchanting.

[Sildor]

No, good riddance to it.

Getting a gear piece and actually equipping it right away is something I have missed ever since vanilla. I'm loving this.

[Annarion]

Blizzard wants you to keep going back for the right piece. Letting you half-ass it with reforge doesn't accomplish that goal. You should be rewarded for defeating an enemy with valuable treasure, not for jury-rigging up whatever you happen to find along the way.

[Jagscorpion]

While I miss the ability to change a bad piece into an "ok" piece, it's nice not to have to jump through 5 hoops just to use a single piece of gear. There were times where I'd have to literally reforge 8 pieces, reenchant, regem just because I picked up a small upgrade and wanted to optimize. I'm glad those days are over even though it would certainly be nice to be able to change a bad stat into a good one. Not to mention that now for most pieces if it's good for you, you can equip it and start using it right away.

[Biggles Worth]

I would really love to see a poll to go back to your yes or no answer thread.

[Tucci]

Heeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no.

[Deleted]

no no no no no no no no no no no.

No.

NO.

I would probably, hate, to see it back. And i mean hate.

[Void666]

Na it was a pain in the ass having to reforge constantly for 2 specs, get a drop reforge. A re-roll secondary stats ability for x amount of apexis crystals id be down with. But it had to be like 1000 and then every time you done it the cost went up. Would save a shit load of wasted gear i end up disenchanting