Hotfixes for December 8 - Class Tuning and More, Everburning Candle Hotfix, DLC #468

[Deleted]

i have no idea if the patches is allready in the game or will be tomorrow at mainteance for EU. my fury feels so strong right now, but i wanna kn ow if there will be confirmation of patch already i the game or will be in the game

any1 WHO knows. please tell me

[Terracresta]

All these "pure dps class should do more dmg" ppl are just whining and I get the feeling they don't play any other class besides their "pure dps" class. Everyone saying "hybrid" classes can do everything are clearly trolling. I could start going into detail but it would be a waste of time trying to explain it to them if they simply ignore all the changes to "hybrid classes" in recent years.

"Hybrids can switch specs but we pure dps can't" *whine*
Because your class doesn't have 3 specs like any other class and because say Shadow Priests want to heal, thats why they play Shadow in the first place...

[Galdor]

/cast Noodle Bolt

[Leyl]

All these "pure dps class should do more dmg" ppl are just whining and I get the feeling they don't play any other class besides their "pure dps" class. Everyone saying "hybrid" classes can do everything are clearly trolling. I could start going into detail but it would be a waste of time trying to explain it to them if they simply ignore all the changes to "hybrid classes" in recent years.

"Hybrids can switch specs but we pure dps can't" *whine*
Because your class doesn't have 3 specs like any other class and because say Shadow Priests want to heal, thats why they play Shadow in the first place...

I agree in some ways, but then why bring any DPS classes at all then? Why not just have dual role hybrids dominate the game? Why bring a class that deals damage and damage alone when I can slot a caster that I can ask to heal, or find someone that can do both? Same for tanking. Raid utility is a thing there too. If a "pure" DPS class has very little raid utility beyond a buff bot, or a battle rez, what the hell does that do for raid groups?

[cmiddl01]

I like how every class but one has been tuned in. this class also has 2 out of 3 specs that is one of the lowest dps sims in the game.

[Heltoray]

Yea, I guess ret and boomkin are totally fine...

[Meggle]

QQ no lock changes, cmon.

[Psykhe]

Why bring a class that deals damage and damage alone when I can slot a caster that I can ask to heal, or find someone that can do both? Same for tanking.

One of us must live in a strange parallel universe.

In mine when a question like "should we take that ret pally or that mage?" comes up the answer "we need magic ranged more than yet another melee dps, lets take the mage" has about a zillion times higher chance of occurring than "we might need another/new tank/healer, the ret pally might have a tank or heal offspec, might have the gear for it, might be skilled in it and might be willing to use it, lets take him".

People choose a dps because they need a certain type of dps, the players item level, the utility the class brings in their current spec (and not other specs) and the current dps performance of their class & spec.

"They could switch to tank/healer" isn't something I have ever seen as reason. People desperate for a healer asking random dpsers with the theoretical capability if they want to join as tank/healer, sure, but then they are looking for a tank/healer. It is increasing a dpsers chance to join groups if they are willing to switch to that role, but it isn't increasing their chance to join groups as dps one bit.

[Deleted]

Leave rising sun kick alooooooone !

[thunderdragon2]

You gotta be trollin'... Right?

RIGHT?

i dont think he is id like an answer to that also i dont get why theyd nerf a underpreforming spec like bm compared to just mm

[Plast]

No shadow priest buff??? how is that possible we are the WORST dps class in the freakin game atm....

[Drusin]

All these "pure dps class should do more dmg" ppl are just whining and I get the feeling they don't play any other class besides their "pure dps" class. Everyone saying "hybrid" classes can do everything are clearly trolling. I could start going into detail but it would be a waste of time trying to explain it to them if they simply ignore all the changes to "hybrid classes" in recent years.

"Hybrids can switch specs but we pure dps can't" *whine*
Because your class doesn't have 3 specs like any other class and because say Shadow Priests want to heal, thats why they play Shadow in the first place...

I main a Druid, I want pures to do more dps.

[Deleted]

Unholy DKs are strong, Frost DKs are weak. They buffed Frost DKs.

Monk nerf was fine. Considering Rising Sun Kick debuff is pretty much 100% uptime, it actually is a straight 5% nerf to their overall damage. This nerf, combined with other class buffs, is actually a solid change.

Arcane/Fire desperately needed buffs, which they both received. Frost Mages were actually strong, and well-represented on damage logs for every fight, so the buff is a little mysterious, but overall the changes were good (though Warlocks could've used a small buff)

Unless you are really bad its definately up 100% of the time(Rising Sun Kick).

But, what people who dont know much about monks wont know, is that the damage buff does not apply to all damage the monks do. Like for example their autoattacks. They arent affected by the rising sun kick debuff at all and they are a large part of the monks damage.

So the buff is roughly 2,5-3% overall damage nerf instead of 5% overall. Monks are far ahead of others on some fights and personally i do think they will recieve more tuning. Especially since they also have some very nice unique things they bring to groups.

Mages needed buffs, DK's didnt. Sure frost is worse then unholy, but unholy is really, really strong. Why not buff combat, Survival etc. aswell then.

Rogues in general need at least 1 spec that competes in top 7, and after todays changes it doesnt. That is pretty ridiculus

[mag07]

No shadow priest buff??? how is that possible we are the WORST dps class in the freakin game atm....

Err, we're not? Msear hits like a wet noodle, but our single target is pretty good. Boring as fuck, but that's another story.

[muSPK]

Is this hotfix live yet?

[buddah13]

still no changes to healing and how awful it is right now, gg Blizz, i am so glad i am not buying anymore time cards, i am leaving this sad excuse for a expansion until timeless isle 2.0 , seriously this expac is just awful

[Skrax]

I wish they would fix survival hunter. I have no idea how they perform in pvp as I only do pve stuff. But at the moment it's completey unplayable. I mean just check out world of logs, highest mm hunter is above 30k and highest survival is at 23.9 for butcher fight, and that is the top rankings in the world atm.. So as an average/good player i can't expect to do much. I refuse to play mm cause if that was the only solution to do dps as a hunter then they might aswell remove bm and surv from the spec tree