"Friend" collects unemployment off me to play WoW

[Lenonis]

So this clearly didn't happen. Not sure what the OP is trying to prove.

Unemployment in the US is an insurance program. When you are fired/laid off/whatever you can file for unemployment which your previous employer has paid into that then is tapped. Because of this your previous employer can also choose to fight it, which many do because the ways to get declared ineligible for unemployment are actually quite numerous.

Then there are requirements to maintain the status and keep getting paid.

Now...that being said...are there ways to game the system? Sure. Do employers get screwed over by bad judgments from the agency managing unemployment? Sure. Is the system as tight as it should be in monitoring those on it? No.

Did this story actually happen as the OP stated? No way in hell.

[Deleted]

Can I get the same job he had? I swear i'll stick it out for a whole week longer.

[Sunseeker]

Sounds like bullshit if you ask me. Besides, 'you' don't pay him unemployment, you pay it through your payroll taxes and then the government pays him unemployment.

[Jester Joe]

Did this story actually happen as the OP stated? No way in hell.

Are you really shocked at the thought that someone could of thought that they'd be entitled to unemployment, and then they told their former boss that, and as a small business of only like 4 people they believed it because they didn't have to deal with it before? Chances are I would imagine that OP isn't even paying anything yet, just assumed that they're going to have to.

[Bathory]

Trying to stir up the "lazy people on unemployment" crowd?

[Lenonis]

Are you really shocked at the thought that someone could of thought that they'd be entitled to unemployment, and then they told their former boss that, and as a small business of only like 4 people they believed it because they didn't have to deal with it before?

Except the OP is claiming that the guy "won" the case and that's the first time he's heard of it. That's just simply not how unemployment works. Something in the OP's story is missing.

[dawawe]

To everyone saying you only get unemployment if youre fired, not true. At least in my state you get it even if you quit as long as you worked 90 days.

[Tinykong]

Except the OP is claiming that the guy "won" the case and that's the first time he's heard of it. That's just simply not how unemployment works. Something in the OP's story is missing.

Some states require businesses to proactively dispute claims, it's possible the OP never received notice and the employee won by default.

[Rooflesstoofless]

OP is either full of shit or completely fails at being a business owner.

Getting unemployment after quitting usually requires:
-Your boss breaking employment laws for that state (not paying you employees, being outwardly abusive toward your employees, etc) and even then it takes a lot of evidence on be awarded the benefits.

-The employee filed a claim and you never bothered to fight it or the appeal.

[slime]

that's a good point, you hiring now?

[Lenonis]

Some states require businesses to proactively dispute claims, it's possible the OP never received notice and the employee won by default.

The likelihood of something getting screwed up that the OP never bothered to investigate is far far less than the OP posting a story full of holes or just flat out made up because s/he was bored today.

So...yes. It's entirely possible, but I don't believe it for a second.

[araine]

I own a very small business just 4 employees and myself. I had a "friend" in college who asked me for a job for a little over 3 years ago. I finally caved in after asking me for years and gave him a job but he only lasted about 6 months and quit last July. Once he quit I got a letter in the mail a few months later stating he applied for unemployment and won the case. Now i have to play my "friend" unemployment and all he does all day is play wow and smoke weed.

I call BS on this not even in Sweden or any other socialist country do you get unemployment that easy

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Trying to stir up the "lazy people on employment" crowd?

It reeks of right wing agenda lazy scrubs smoking weed and playing games while we the hardworking right wing people have to pay for welfare queens like this.

Just one major problem this story is full of holes and anyone that has been around in real life knows this isnt how things work in real life

[the game]

a pothead cheating the system so he can sit around all day getting high and playing video games. Not news.

[OneTripleZero]

Why wouldn't they? Who should pay it?

Well if you're Canadian, the government does out of a pool of money set aside for just such a reason.

To be honest I was just as baffled (being Canadian) at this post as Erin was. TIL, apparently.

[araine]

Why wouldn't they? Who should pay it?

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It's something the employer has to pay into whether the person gets it or not.

Government who else should pay for it?

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a pothead cheating the system so he can sit around all day getting high and playing video games. Not news.

except that is highly unlikely to be the case since nowhere does the laws allow this to happen, so as usual it is the right wing lazy moocher nonsense in a new form for the day, nothing new and not news as they say just the typical right wing nonsense from the pseudo world they think is reality

[Paranoid Android]

You own a business and have time to post on MMO-Champ, OP? In my true conservative bubble, you are not working hard enough as a business owner. Job "providers" work 24/7 and walk on water. So I think you are the horrible person for not working hard enough, and providing more jobs to us lonely people.

[Orange Joe]

Well if you're Canadian, the government does out of a pool of money set aside for just such a reason.

To be honest I was just as baffled (being Canadian) at this post as Erin was. TIL, apparently.

Government who else should pay for it?

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except that is highly unlikely to be the case since nowhere does the laws allow this to happen, so as usual it is the right wing lazy moocher nonsense in a new form for the day, nothing new and not news as they say just the typical right wing nonsense from the pseudo world they think is reality

Seems there is some misunderstanding how it works.

All employers pay into unemployment. This isn't something they pay extra for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_benefits

In the United States unemployment benefits generally pay eligible workers between 40-50% of their previous pay.^[31] Benefits are generally paid by state governments, funded in large part by state and federal payroll taxes levied against employers

[the game]

Government who else should pay for it?

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except that is highly unlikely to be the case since nowhere does the laws allow this to happen, so as usual it is the right wing lazy moocher nonsense in a new form for the day, nothing new and not news as they say just the typical right wing nonsense from the pseudo world they think is reality

Because pot heads never abuse the system.

[Deleted]

Because pot heads never abuse the system.

Because people never lie on the internet.

[the game]

Because people never lie on the internet.

I agree people lie on the internet.