keto diet

[Maltah]

That 70lbs in 2 months above was me working at a desk job and not exercising at all (which is why I'm comfortable saying it was diet that did it), and I was eating things like two Sausage McMuffins (minus the muffins) every weekday for breakfast, or lunch would be a Baconator (no bun), side of chili, diet coke, from Wendy's. I wasn't eating "healthy" other than limiting carbs, and I was stuffing myself with all the greasy, fatty, low-carb stuff I wanted. And lost a ton of weight..

I see a lot of similar stories at r/keto. How anyone can think that eating those kinds of foods over your life won't have negative effects, is baffling. I see images of "my keto snack drawer!" full of beef jerky and pork rinds. I can certainly understand why that diet appeals to a lot of people though.

It's no joke that people lose a lot of weight on keto diets. Whether or not that's a long term solution to a more healthy lifestyle is another matter. I imagine most doctors would recommend staying away from McDonald's and bacon, and stick to a low carb diet (you were being monitored, which is a rare exception to most keto dieters).

Either way, a life without moving and sweating probably isn't the best for long term health regardless (Assuming there are not other medical issues other than weight loss). Keto certainly will work to drop a lot of weight fast though, which might be the kick in the ass most people need.

[Osmeric]

I see a lot of similar stories at r/keto. How anyone can think that eating those kinds of foods over your life won't have negative effects, is baffling.

But why should they have a negative effect? Realize there is no good evidence that saturated fat is harmful.

[cphantom]

But why should they have a negative effect? Realize there is no good evidence that saturated fat is harmful.

Cholesterol can be pretty bad though honestly. Just work out, exercise, don't be a couch potato just due to the weight loss! Not moving at all is just as bad as being overweight.

[THE Bigzoman]

First time hearing about it and it looks like the effects are adverse.

I have a few questions (as I'm working on getting my body to it's potential)

1. Will these adverse effects hurt my grades and studying? I have my BA thesis this semester and the roughest classes.
2. Can I go keto with dormitory cafeteria food?
3. Is this diet more for just dropping tons of weight or can I use it to build muscle as well?

[Endus]

I see a lot of similar stories at r/keto. How anyone can think that eating those kinds of foods over your life won't have negative effects, is baffling. I see images of "my keto snack drawer!" full of beef jerky and pork rinds. I can certainly understand why that diet appeals to a lot of people though.

Most of that stuff about "negative effects" is ill-informed, though. There's nothing particularly unhealthy about beef jerky, for instance. Fat isn't the devil; if anything, sugar is.

Like I said; I was getting a full cadre of bloodwork done every 2 weeks (damn socialist health care!), and pretty much every measure improved over the course of that two months. I stopped because I hit my target and didn't want to push it, not because I was suffering any negative consequences. Blood sugars, triglycerides, cholesterols, vitamin levels, everything got better.

Is eating that forever healthy? No. Ketosis isn't a healthy thing to maintain, but even Atkins doesn't recommend that. You use the ketosis phase as a burn, and your maintenance is just a regular lower-carb diet, 80-100g of carbs a day, more with exercise. Which is pretty generous, really; a slice of bread is only 20-25g, so you can easily have a sandwich at lunch and some pasta for dinner and stay within that range.

[Deldavala]

Keto Diet is just a simple way to "Trick" your body to eat less calories. For most people fat and protein rich foods will give you higher satiety meaning you eat less. And when you eat less you loose weight. Its also the fact that you will shed a lot of water the first weeks due to having less carbs in your diet.

I ate almost exclusively a keto like diet for 18months. Not because I followed the Keto lifestyle, but because it was the best way for me to not get hungry. Lost 40kg in the proccess aswell and gained tons of muscle

[Endus]

First time hearing about it and it looks like the effects are adverse.

I have a few questions (as I'm working on getting my body to it's potential)

1. Will these adverse effects hurt my grades and studying? I have my BA thesis this semester and the roughest classes.
2. Can I go keto with dormitory cafeteria food?
3. Is this diet more for just dropping tons of weight or can I use it to build muscle as well?

1> It shouldn't affect mental acuity at all, really.

2> Depending on your dorm, maybe. You may be stuck with salads sometimes, though. One of the nice things about keto diets is that, if you "cheat", you set yourself back a couple days, that's it. Only takes about 48 hours for the ketosis to kick in.

3> It's mostly for dropping weight. Most bulking routines I've seen are high carb; the goal is to pack weight on. What they sometimes do is carb-load while bulking, and then go low-carb to trim the fat that bulking added on alongside the muscle. There's nothing about ketosis that's going to hurt your muscular development, you're just not feeding it particularly either. And you generally want extra calories in your system to aid with the muscle gain.

[belfpala]

1. Will these adverse effects hurt my grades and studying? I have my BA thesis this semester and the roughest classes.
2. Can I go keto with dormitory cafeteria food?
3. Is this diet more for just dropping tons of weight or can I use it to build muscle as well?

1. Possibly. Though, in undergrad I lived mostly on coffee and cigarettes and it didn't do me any short term harm.
2. Probably. Depends on the format of your cafeteria, really. Also realize (speaking as a chef), there's sugar in a lot of things you might not expect to find it.
3. Any high-protein diet combined with lifting or other exercise should work for building muscle if you're getting enough calories.

[Zippoflames]

I lost 7 stone in 6 months following a keto diet.
http://www.exantediet.com/home.dept is the one I started to follow then eventually just did it myself by keeping carbs under 20g per meal 3 times a day.

I went from getting out of breath walking up stairs to my bedroom to jogging 2-3 miles a day alternative days.

I cant stress enough the first 3-5 days are literally hell on earth as all you can think about is eating anything as you are raving starving hungry then on the 4th/5th or as late as the 6th day you wake up feeling fucking fantastic with more energy than you know what to do with. But I did find I was knackered of an evening earlier than usual

[Deldavala]

First time hearing about it and it looks like the effects are adverse.

I have a few questions (as I'm working on getting my body to it's potential)

1. Will these adverse effects hurt my grades and studying? I have my BA thesis this semester and the roughest classes.
2. Can I go keto with dormitory cafeteria food?
3. Is this diet more for just dropping tons of weight or can I use it to build muscle as well?

1. The first weeks might be rough due to adapting to the diet. But after that no problem

2. Cafeteria food might be hard to do it with due to tons of carbs

3. Keto can be used to build muscle, but it will be hard to force down that amount of food due to the high satiety level. Carbs are much easier to bulk on both due to price and its easier to consume tons of calories that way.

[Proskill]

I lost a ridiculous amount of weight doing an Atkins burn phase for 2 months. Before anyone says how potentially unhealthy that is, I know, and I was getting blood drawn every two weeks by my doctor, to monitor me. 70lbs in 2 months, all told.



This is really an oversimplification.

First, you need to calculate and include your base metabolic rate for these calculations to be accurate. There's no simple way to do this with a quick weight/height calculator, not accurately; you need some medical testing.

Second, the main reason the ketosis-based diets work is that your metabolism entering ketosis is a natural appetite suppressant. You just feel less hungry. The Atkins system was essentially "eat as much as you want, as long as your carbs/day stays under 25g". Eat as much zero-carb meat and cheese as you like, for instance. While eating 4000 calories of breakfast sausages would pork you out, the reduction in appetite means you generally won't.

That 70lbs in 2 months above was me working at a desk job and not exercising at all (which is why I'm comfortable saying it was diet that did it), and I was eating things like two Sausage McMuffins (minus the muffins) every weekday for breakfast, or lunch would be a Baconator (no bun), side of chili, diet coke, from Wendy's. I wasn't eating "healthy" other than limiting carbs, and I was stuffing myself with all the greasy, fatty, low-carb stuff I wanted. And lost a ton of weight.

My performance is what you'd see in commercials with a little asterisk and tiny text at the bottom saying "results not typical", though. I'm well outside the normal range for this, and I'm not saying you'll see similar rates.

70lbs is like 35 kg ? ive been taught that healthy weight loss is 1kg per week, for 2 months that would be 8kg. 35k loss during 2 months is A LOT.
but tell me (well, i think i know the answer), was it only weight loss in numbers, or did you actually see difference with your body fat reducing, was it really visible ?

[Endus]

70lbs is like 35 kg ? ive been taught that healthy weight loss is 1kg per week, for 2 months that would be 8kg. 35k loss during 2 months is A LOT.
but tell me (well, i think i know the answer), was it only weight loss in numbers, or did you actually see difference with your body fat reducing, was it really visible ?

About three pant sizes total, though part of that (in hindsight) was a lack of bloating due to my (then-undiagnosed) gluten issues.

But yes; definitely visible. And yes, definitely beyond normal weight loss; this is why I was working so closely with my doctor, to be sure it wasn't causing any issues.

[Priya-tan]

I felt really tired and light headed the first few days (Keto "flu"), but after the first week it gets a lot easier and you definitely see results. Also you will pee.. A LOT. I did it for about 3 months and saw results, but I love bread and rice too much so I just count calories now and work out :P

[Deleted]

One Of my best friends have gone from 130Kg at 1.90cm to around 90kg in 8 months. He started eating lchf style because he got diagnosed with IBS. He's saying the weight loss is just a side effect as the main goal was to be able to function without having to spend 4,5 hours on the toilet every day.

Only time he skips eating keto is when loading for a marathon run..

[Proskill]

ok im definately gonna try this diet for the first time in my life, after reading all the positive comments.

im 182cm 78kg atm (still a lot of body fat to lose, trust me. i think its called skinnyfat)

ill probably start at 1500kcal, then go down up to 1200kcal. im currently at 1800 for 2 weeks with balanced diet (crispbread, crackers, flavored yoghurts etc)

so for 1500kcal how should my macros look like ? again ive been taught to take 1g protein per 1kg bodyweight.
78g x 4kcal = 312kcal proteins
30g x 4kcal = 120kcal carbs
so the rest 1070kcal divided by 9 would equal 119g of fat

would u approve this or change some ratios ?

[Reeve]

I never understood why it's "kcal" in Europe but just calories in the US. Whenever I read kcal I think a thousand calories and I have to remind myself that's not what they mean.

[Deldavala]

ok im definately gonna try this diet for the first time in my life, after reading all the positive comments.

im 182cm 78kg atm (still a lot of body fat to lose, trust me. i think its called skinnyfat)

ill probably start at 1500kcal, then go down up to 1200kcal. im currently at 1800 for 2 weeks with balanced diet (crispbread, crackers, flavored yoghurts etc)

so for 1500kcal how should my macros look like ? again ive been taught to take 1g protein per 1kg bodyweight.
78g x 4kcal = 312kcal proteins
30g x 4kcal = 120kcal carbs
so the rest 1070kcal divided by 9 would equal 119g of fat

would u approve this or change some ratios ?

If you are skinnyfat you shouldnt cut though. You will just look the same, but smaller. Its much better to slowbulk or recomp with heavy strenght workout to look amazing

[Deleted]

MBut it is kilo calorie = 1000 calories = 4184 joules.
Seeing as a normal burger is 250kcal its alot easier write it like kcal instead of 250000 calories. 1gram carb or protein is 4kcal and one gram was is ~9kcal (depending on fat type) so it does make some sense.

US uses large calorie instead of just calorie i guess.. Works just as good.

[Deleted]

I'm really interested in keto after reading this but I'm not sure if I'm able to do it since I don't really like bacon or other red meat and I don't want to eat oil just for the sake of getting more fat (I don't want to lose muscle for the sake of losing weight since I'm not exactly obese: 183cm/78kg).

Is it possible to get enough proteins etc. from just vegetables/cheese/fish? I guess I could also consider protein powder...

[Deleted]

I'm really interested in keto after reading this but I'm not sure if I'm able to do it since I don't really like bacon or other red meat and I don't want to eat oil just for the sake of getting more fat (I don't want to lose muscle for the sake of losing weight since I'm not exactly obese: 183cm/78kg).

Is it possible to get enough proteins etc. from just vegetables/cheese/fish? I guess I could also consider protein powder...

Chicken breast + milk + low fat quark/cottage cheese should give more than enough. If you still want/need more, you can add protein powder to your milk.