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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    @RampageBW1 @Jester Joe @Yunru @Zatheyll

    Have you looked into VRV? I've been using it for a year and a half now, using the app on my Roku TV, the app on my phone, or watching on my computer. Haven't had any problems, aside from a couple times when I couldn't log in because their servers with offline.
    I have not. My complaints about CR are just more of griping while I'm also too stuck in my way at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Hell, I would vote Slow Start over MHA for animation.
    I mean, you aren't wrong.

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    I dont know if i can bring myself to watch dubbed Konosuba.

    "Would you please let me join your p-p-party?

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    I am not sure I like Isekai anime, I couldn't even get past the first episode of Konosuba, and I tried watching the first episode of Shield Bros(?) and I couldn't watch it fully either. :/

    I am sad that I couldn't watch Konosuba since it seems like something I would actually like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    I am not sure I like Isekai anime, I couldn't even get past the first episode of Konosuba, and I tried watching the first episode of Shield Bros(?) and I couldn't watch it fully either. :/

    I am sad that I couldn't watch Konosuba since it seems like something I would actually like.
    The only isekai shows I liked were The Vision of Escaflowne (the redub by FUNimation was great!) and Re:Zero, the latter took me three attempts at watching (the dub brought me back for the third time and sold me) before I finally "got it". It can be hard to get into, because unlike a traditional fantasy story, the story also revolves around the protagonist otherworldly to these people, trying to get back home, and the plot that ensues that revolves around the protagonists' specialness of being from another world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    @RampageBW1 @Jester Joe @Yunru @Zatheyll

    Have you looked into VRV? I've been using it for a year and a half now, using the app on my Roku TV, the app on my phone, or watching on my computer. Haven't had any problems, aside from a couple times when I couldn't log in because their servers with offline.
    Not avaible in your region . Its a FUCKING internet.

    Well if i bothered i would use vpn to do that, but ehhh...well i can just do that thing wich is quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    I may need this explaining... how did it take you 3 attempts and a dub to "get it"?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    Actually reading the subs might help.
    Checked it out for the first time in October of 2016 when it was all the rage in the anime community, dropped.

    It was AotY on many people's list and continued to be one of the most talked about series in 2017, even though it had finished airing, so I doubled down and decided to watch it for as long as I could. Gave up halfway through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Thoughts on Re:Zero, one year later.

    Having tried to get back into Re:Zero again (which I dropped half way through last year), I still couldn't bring myself to finish the series. While rewatching the few episodes I did, I have managed to further extrapolate why I dislike the show so much (and am puzzled as to it's mainstream popularity - surely people cannot overlook the show's glaring flaws just because it has Emillia and Rem).

    Subaru is... an unremarkable protagonist. There is nothing unique about it him. His characterzation (characterization character development) is virtually non-existent. What we know about Subaru:

    • 1. He is an Otaku, with no stated interests of particular besides just an overly broad claim of "otaku".

      2. He has a crush on Emilia, and is uncaring enough to stalk her across multiple timelines even when she ostensibly rejects him.

      3. He is dissatisfied with himself for his complacency, which the only notable form of character development. The only thing that makes him remotely memorable in the LN genre (whose protagonists are forgettable by default, save for Tatsuya) doesn't have anything to do with the character himself, but how the series treats him.

    Indeed, the only thing to write home about the main protagonist - the character we are going to spend upwards of 80% of the series' runtime following is that he basically a selfish jerk, and nothing else. Many posters on MAL, Reddit, and AnimeSuki have claimed that he is a deconstruction of the light novel or Isekai genre, but Subaru is anything but. He is the embodiment of the stereotypical LN and Isekai protagonist. The difference is how the narrative treats him - by basically torturing him for some minor screw up for days on end every few hours the story progresses. The story lavishes in torture-porn so much, that it crosses the line from "huh, this is pretty interesting" to "this is just senseless". By the midpoint of the series, the sheer amount of contrivances the series uses just to make the protagonist suffer is absolutely ludicrous. This does not deconstruct the Isekai genre; Re:Zero is embodies the Isekai genre. It just makes shifts the responsibility of the conflict to the character, and makes sure that he is responsible for every minor problem that ever happens.

    Resolving the numerous conflicts involving death and resetting amounts to an incredibly tedious show to watch: the first arc which takes place at the tavern takes several hours of screentime to resolve, when the story could have been condensed into at most two episodes. The amount of time spent just wondering around, retreading the same beats each time for tidbits of information (which is wholly inconsequential to the overarching story in the longrun) exposes the poor pacing of the series. All characters involved (besides maybe Reinhardt and that one business-minded princess) are either completely uninteresting or even repulsive. The fights are drawn out and generic, and I have no idea where all of the locations takes are relative to each other (which - considering the importance of the mansion where Emilia and Subaru live, and the castle where all the political maneuvering will take place, we should know where they are!). I'm not even going to bother with the general artstyle and sound design of the series. I will say though, that the ending Styx Helix is quite memorable - enough to recall it from a series I didn't even like a whole year after I dropped it and only heard it a few times.

    Now, on to my main beef: Re:Zero does not get me to care. I do not care about Subaru, because he does not love Emilia. He lusts after her. He incessantly follows her around tries to get in a relationship with her without giving a damn about what she wants. Not once, does he asks about her outlook on life or what she hopes to accomplish. Nor does he make any attempts to understand what she wants. He has some vague understanding that she is a candidate to become a princess (which he only learned by overhearing it), and then DISOBEYS HER EARNEST REQUEST to help her, when she SPECIFICALLY TOLD HIM TO JUST WAIT AT HOME FOR A FEW HOURS. His sheer inconsideration goes so far, that he basically ends up making Emilia's problems worse by simply trying to do what he wants as opposed to what she needs. I'm not a feminist; it's about Subaru being so self-centered, that he doesn't even consider other people as freaking human beings. If he actually gave a damn about her as human being, he would tried to make a genuine connection, but it's quite clear that he sees her as only a pretty thing by the end. If the series had actually addressed that point, I would have been more than happy to see Subaru rise up and be a better man, but I digress. I genuinely happy that Emilia told him off after his stunt in the castle; too bad the narrative is going to do everything it can to get him together with her in the end... and if the Rem arc is anything to go by, he will not have developed in that area one bit. At most, he wallows in self-pity about he is some useless failure in life for being an otaku shut-in, without addressing his actual problems. Not to mention, he callously tells Rem off because he's still chasing after Emilia... after she told him off, further showing the true depths of his selfishness. It's mind boggling that people uphold Subaru as some sort of model of devotion, when he's clearly a stalker who couldn't accept his rejection, nor understand why he was rejected. There's one thing Subaru was right about: Emilia deserves better. She truly does.

    Sorry I went off a rant there, but I genuinely cannot grasp this show's critical acclaim. No really, it boggles my mind.


    Then it was announced that FUNimation would be dubbing it with Sean Chiplock voicing Subaru. That name alone made me put it back on my watchlist. I watched it... and then it finally hit me. Binged the entire first part; can't wait for the second half to release in a couple months! Hopefully we'll get a second season!

    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Twenty months since I dropped the show the first time and eight since I dropped it the second time, I've finally managed to enjoy Re:Zero!

    I finally get it, and it's all because of the English Dub. The first two times, it just felt like I was slogging through stills of people screaming melodramatically about how they can't do anything and a story moving at a snails pace, but now I actually get these people. Their hopes and their dreams, what they want in life. I hear the inflection in their voices when they mean something other than what they say, something I could've only taken at face value the first time around. I now actually care! Initially, I was only going to try the show again because I heard the one and only Sean Chiplock was voicing Subaru, so I came back to check it out. To my surprise, everyone's great! Looking forward to the last twelve episodes being released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Then it was announced that FUNimation would be dubbing it with Sean Chiplock voicing Subaru. That name alone made me put it back on my watchlist. I watched it... and then it finally hit me. Binged the entire first part; can't wait for the second half to release in a couple months! Hopefully we'll get a second season!
    M8, we had Matsuoka on arguably his best performance so far and it was bloody amazing.

  9. #62849
    And all this time, conspiracy theorists thought it was vaccines giving the kids autism, when it was dubs all along.

  10. #62850
    When it comes to watching series for A Certain Magical Index/Scientific Railgun, Magical Index comes first, right?

  11. #62851
    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    When it comes to watching series for A Certain Magical Index/Scientific Railgun, Magical Index comes first, right?
    Yes .

    "Would you please let me join your p-p-party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    When it comes to watching series for A Certain Magical Index/Scientific Railgun, Magical Index comes first, right?
    They are pretty loosely connected so I think you can watch either first without much problem. I usually find the best bet if you are planning to watch it all to just go in release order i.e. Index I - Railgun I - Index II - Index movie - Railgun II - Index III

    The only real issue with this is there is a small arc in Index that is shown again in much greater detail in Railgun. I know some people say it "spoils" the Railgun arc but unless you are the type of person is get mad at even the smallest of spoilers, it isn't much of an issue. The Railgun arc is does in such a way that both people who are completely new as well as people who watched Index should enjoy it just fine. Railgun covers the arc much later in the series and is a much better adaptation of it that I really had no issue with it. For me it was sort of like watching a movie, enjoying it, and then reading the much better book it was based on later. I still enjoyed both versions even though one was clearly superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pvt Hudson View Post
    I dont know if i can bring myself to watch dubbed Konosuba.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK83jgo9h5g#t=19s

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    Quote Originally Posted by RampageBW1 View Post
    When it comes to watching series for A Certain Magical Index/Scientific Railgun, Magical Index comes first, right?
    Index I -> Railgun -> Index II -> Index Film -> Railgun S -> Index III

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Still not sold on the voices.

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    Kemonomichi Manga by Konosuba's Akatsuki Gets Anime



    The manga follows masked wrestler Genzō Shibata, who likes all kinds of animals and creatures. One day he is summoned to another world, where a princess asks him to help kill magical beasts, but he gets mad and puts her in a German suplex. Instead, he begins life as a pet shop owner in the other world.
    https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...-anime/.142278

  17. #62857
    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    I don't think it's fitting. Kazuma sounds more awkwardly nervous in the dub than "sick of this trash" in the sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    2s in and this is already utter garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    2s in and this is already utter garbage.
    Like every dub hater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    Like every dub hater.
    You're not going to make me like garbage, the voices don't fit the characters, the english voice actors don't express the emotions as well as the originals and it just sounds so out of place apart from being simply ugly that it makes me wonder if they're having to work on some budget studio with mediocre audio mixing.

    There's literally no reason to watch anything on a dub that isn't the original. Which holds true for american films/series too. The original is always better regardless of language, and unless you're unable to read subtitles why the hell would you choose something worse? Makes no sense.

    Even if you ignore that it's objectively worse, you still have unsynchronised lip movement which is hilariously immersion killing.
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