Disc T18 Trinkets

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Yo!

Whats your opinion(s) on BiS Trinks for Disc for T18?

I imagine ilvl 700+ Chew Toy will still be strong for Mythic HC progression. What about Candle? Still has a good mana return.

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Demonic Phylactery will undoubtedly be BiS for most healers if not all, I'll probably go for Iron Reaver Piston (throughput) or Intuition's Gift (regen) as a second slot depending on the fight.

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Demonic Phylactery will undoubtedly be BiS for most healers if not all, I'll probably go for Iron Reaver Piston (throughput) or Intuition's Gift (regen) as a second slot depending on the fight.

For now iv'e set my sights on DP & Chew Toy/Intuiton's Gift. Need to do/see some number crunching on those, really don't like the idea of a secondary stat use trinket for healing.

[Overdispersion]

Chew toy and other brf trinkets aren't comparable to even the hc hfc trinkets tbh. I would go for DP+IG but IG might be hard to get since its use on effect lines up better for palas/druids/shaman.

[Pearl1717]

There was also a discussion in another post from awhile ago if you're interested in reading through that one:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...nkets-for-Disc

As for me, I'll obviously picking up the Demonic Phylactery (dat 1.1k spirit doe) and then probably the Flickering Felspark now that it gives int/mastery/haste/spirit. Although I'd be comfortable replacing the FF with Iron Reaver Piston or Intuitions Gift. I'm not crazy about on use trinkets, but they are better than procs for healers. But like Overdispersion said, the IG does line up better for other healers CD's though.

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I'll be aiming for Demonic Phylactery and Intuitions Gift. However I would take Flickering Felspark instead of Intuitions gift if it's higher quality in any way (+socket/warforged, even if it just had leech on it). The main thing is Demonic Phylactery, it's incredibly powerful.

In regards to dropping spirit as needed I'd probably prefer to do that by changing rings and cloak (and running a non spirit neck 100% of the time)

[Wastey]

Thoughts on Desecrated Shadowmoon Insignia as throughput option, opposed to the Iron Reaver Piston.

[Zolvolt]

I'm going for Flickering Felspark and Demonic Phylactery. Flickering /was/ nerfed again recently, so Intuition is worth considering again.

[Myllior]

Thoughts on Desecrated Shadowmoon Insignia as throughput option, opposed to the Iron Reaver Piston.

With the nerfs to the Iron Reaver Piston, I'd say the Desecrated Shadowmoon Insignia is now the clear option of the two for throughput (it's even better if you take ~30% off the average Intellect value of the proc due to its randomness; assuming 20% Haste).

Flickering /was/ nerfed again recently, so Intuition is worth considering again.

Sheesh, only 287 of each stat? Intuition's Gift is certainly a contender for the second trinket slot now; which one you want probably comes down to how well you utilise the proc, and how good you are at staying on top of the cooldown.

[Overdispersion]

I'll be aiming for Demonic Phylactery and Intuitions Gift. However I would take Flickering Felspark instead of Intuitions gift if it's higher quality in any way (+socket/warforged, even if it just had leech on it). The main thing is Demonic Phylactery, it's incredibly powerful.

In regards to dropping spirit as needed I'd probably prefer to do that by changing rings and cloak (and running a non spirit neck 100% of the time)

Why necklace?

[muto]

Demonic Phylactery will undoubtedly be BiS for most healers if not all, I'll probably go for Iron Reaver Piston (throughput) or Intuition's Gift (regen) as a second slot depending on the fight.

That's fight dependent. If it's a short fight like Blackhand/Gruul you can probably run without it, but if it's a Garrosh/Lich King length fight then yeah, you'd definitely want to run with it. It also depends on spell usage. In a situation where PW:S is like 55-60% of your healing it will be incredibly powerful. Since mana might not be an issue with it, it might even allow you to spec Surge of Light, and just hold the procs for sniping people if they're about to die.

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Why necklace?

because crit mastery 730 with no 730 mastery spirit option.
with rings you access to 730 mastery with and without spirit.
cloak is probably the weirdest choice, mastery spirit 725 is available but the 730 haste multistrike just seems to math out better due to the ilvl difference. That said, it is close. Just generally lacking in the cloak department for disc.

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I lucked out with a coin roll and got IG heroic warforged with a socket and speed on it aswell! I can feel a noticeable mana gain from using the everburning candle and the on use crit is sweet lining up with shield spamming burst damage phases. Thinking DF to go with it eventually.

[Atharaxie]

Coin rolled HM Intuition Gift (Int+Spi on use crit 15/90). Currently pairing it with level 6 Hourglass because I simply have nothing else.
My problem is that I don't value crit enough to micro manage the on use effect. So I would be binding it with :

-Power Infusion (20/120) Best power spike. Activate time don't realy overlap and I would be wasting at least 33% uptime due to different cooldown.
-Archangel. Minor power spike. In progress content I basically activate AA when it's up
-On CD (tied to Solace or Penance). Just don't bother and activate it whenever.

Or maybe I should make an effort and bind a special key just for this trinket. What is your way of dealing with it ?

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Coin rolled HM Intuition Gift (Int+Spi on use crit 15/90). Currently pairing it with level 6 Hourglass because I simply have nothing else.
My problem is that I don't value crit enough to micro manage the on use effect. So I would be binding it with :

-Power Infusion (20/120) Best power spike. Activate time don't realy overlap and I would be wasting at least 33% uptime due to different cooldown.
-Archangel. Minor power spike. In progress content I basically activate AA when it's up
-On CD (tied to Solace or Penance). Just don't bother and activate it whenever.

Or maybe I should make an effort and bind a special key just for this trinket. What is your way of dealing with it ?

yup, put it on it's own keybind. The CD doesn't line up with PI and you don't want to activate it immediately with AA since you want to use the 100% crit PoH before using the trinket

[Overdispersion]

yup, put it on it's own keybind. The CD doesn't line up with PI and you don't want to activate it immediately with AA since you want to use the 100% crit PoH before using the trinket

Or delay the EAA PoH depending on the situation ^^.

[Pearl1717]

What I've been doing with this trinket is that I'll hit AA with PI (as you always should), get off my EAA+PoH, then hit my IG. Its a PI + IG is a pretty strong combo with all dem critted shields blanketing the raid.

But, I do delay IG to hit it with every PI.

[Skaiya]

Using DP/IG right now, but I'll probably go DP/DSI when I get the opportunity.

[Mussah]

I found this yesterday https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...B6Wq-Ud8jGXuo/

Is that right?

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I found this yesterday https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...B6Wq-Ud8jGXuo/

Is that right?

it's correct for what it is. Based off some top t17 logs, some things will change with t18 though. There's a lot of haste on t18 priest gear so that's something to consider, dropping the t17 2pc will also mean a shorter penance cast (and therefore more casts /minute), that might be offset by taking solace since it costs no mana, etc etc

It's also only showing how much mana is saved by each of those specs, not how valuable that mana is. eg, a holy priest probably values spirit more than disc, so even if disc gets a 'bit' more it might still have higher value as holy.

edit; if you were trying to decide who to give it to from your own raids then just bring up some logs and add up how many spell casts each healer does on a fight. more casts = bigger value.