Former People: the Fate of Russian Aristocrats after the 1917 revolution

[Grummgug]

http://www.amazon.com/Former-People-.../dp/1250037794
http://www.popmatters.com/review/176...-by-douglas-s/

Ever wonder what happened to the Russian aristocracy once Lenin and Stalin took over? This book goes into detail.

The revolution overthrew the Tsars but there was also the aristocracy.

One of the most interesting aspects of the revolution is that the aristocracy actually embraced liberal views and believed in expanding workers rights. They felt it was enlightened. They tried to distance themselves from the Tsar who they felt was less receptive to those ideas. As it turns out, being a leftist liberal did not save any aristocrat. During the revolution, the aristocracy was punished just as severely, having their wealth and homes stripped from them, getting killed, or thrown in the Gulag. The lucky were those that fled to other nations and became exiles.

[Wildtree]

Ever wonder what happened to the Russian aristocracy once Lenin and Stalin took over?

Not really....
handled in history class in school... I believe around 7th grade..

[Kalis]

I was more interested in what happened to Russia's greatest love machine.

[Lava Bucket]

Before I opened the thread, I made a guess: Same thing that happens to every ruling class in a revolution?

Yep, I was right.

[Wildtree]

I was more interested in what happened to Russia's greatest love machine.

Rasputin or Katharina?

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[Revi]

Interestingly, the fall of the communist rule instantly created a new aristocracy because of the shitty way they divided the wealth into private hands.

[Kalis]

Rasputin or Katharina?

Do you not know your 70s Disco, heathen?

Go back to your prog rock and never darken my doorstep again!

[Deleted]

A revolution that had innocent victims, truly shocked by that notion.

[Lava Bucket]

A revolution that had innocent victims, truly shocked by that notion.

I think you may be stretching the definition of "innocent" past its breaking point.

[Daelak]

http://www.amazon.com/Former-People-.../dp/1250037794
http://www.popmatters.com/review/176...-by-douglas-s/

Ever wonder what happened to the Russian aristocracy once Lenin and Stalin took over? This book goes into detail.

The revolution overthrew the Tsars but there was also the aristocracy.

One of the most interesting aspects of the revolution is that the aristocracy actually embraced liberal views and believed in expanding workers rights. They felt it was enlightened. They tried to distance themselves from the Tsar who they felt was less receptive to those ideas. As it turns out, being a leftist liberal did not save any aristocrat. During the revolution, the aristocracy was punished just as severely, having their wealth and homes stripped from them, getting killed, or thrown in the Gulag. The lucky were those that fled to other nations and became exiles.

Oh is this why Democrats are communists?

[Wildtree]

Do you not know your 70s Disco, heathen?

Go back to your prog rock and never darken my doorstep again!

combine disco with prog and you get.......

Supermax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSb6fEv8sVU

Now you go, and never darken my towels again

[Deleted]

Perhaps the best example of why a revolution is not bringing the "people" what it wants/needs.
Russia only became worse after the last Tsar was killed.

I believe it all went wrong because Tsar Nicholas II lacked any sort of experience as a ruler + the war made it even worse.

[Independent voter]

A lot of Russians immigrated to the US during this period. We call them White Russians, they live on the East Coast mostly.

[Wildtree]

A lot of Russians immigrated to the US during this period. We call them White Russians, they live on the East Coast mostly.

And them people....... They're called White Russian everywhere... They're geographically from Belarus

[Independent voter]

And them people....... They're called White Russian everywhere... They're geographically from Belarus

A white émigré refers to a Russian subject who emigrated from Imperial Russia in the wake of the Russian Revolution and Russian Civil War, and who was in opposition to the contemporary Russian political climate.

-- Wikipedia

Maybe it means Belarus in Germany?

[Kalis]

A white émigré refers to a Russian subject who emigrated from Imperial Russia in the wake of the Russian Revolution and Russian Civil War, and who was in opposition to the contemporary Russian political climate.

-- Wikipedia

Maybe it means Belarus in Germany?

White Russian can refer to:

1. The country Belarus, which means White Russia.
2. Russians who fought against the Bolsheviks, and counted Britain and the US amongst their backers.
3. The cocktail.

Wildtree is getting 1 and 2 mixed up, possibly due to the German for Belarus translating as White Russia, or maybe due to him having a few too many of 3.

[Wildtree]

Maybe it means Belarus in Germany?

idk...
Weissrussland = Weiss / White Russland / Russia

Weissrussland territory is Belarus
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei%C3%9Frussland






ahh, here we go... English too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Russia

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White Russian can refer to:

1. The country Belarus, which means White Russia.
2. Russians who fought against the Bolsheviks, and counted Britain and the US amongst their backers.
3. The cocktail.

Wildtree is getting 1 and 2 mixed up, possibly due to the German for Belarus translating as White Russia

1......
Definitely 1... because heaps of them living in Germany ever since.
They're the sort of people who can claim German heritage because their grandmothers cousin friend once seen a German shepherd walking across the street...

[Kalis]

1......
Definitely 1... because heaps of them living in Germany ever since.
They're the sort of people who can claim German heritage because their grandmothers cousin friend once seen a German shepherd walking across the street...

Hubcap is talking about 2, hence the confusion.

[Felya]

Wildtree is getting 1 and 2 mixed up, possibly due to the German for Belarus translating as White Russia, or maybe due to him having a few too many of 3.

In Russian, Bela is shortened for white and rus is obviously shortened Russia...