"It is a little late, after you are both undressed, to say: "I don’t want this.""

[Granyala]

Dun we need right mood too? O_o

Our mood is more stable than theirs / we need less input to be ready for the deed.

[PosPosPos]

Rofl, what. You're aware that one can feel like not having sex anymore due to various reasons, right?

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No, it isn't rude.

Guess you are the only one who thinks that way. Every other reasonable and sane person doesn't.

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Guess you are the only one who thinks that way. Every other reasonable and sane person does.

You're not reasonable nor sane if you think someone is being "shitty" or "rude" if they don't want to do something they don't feel like doing.

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No, I actually think she's an idiot for changing her mind like that... like actually a medically diagnosed type of actual menteal disease idiocy. It's either that or being a manipulative bitch. One thing will get my sympathy and a soft but firm escorting to the door, the other will get my scorn and a firm and definitely firm "Get out now or I'll kick you out, literally".

This speaks a lot about you and your problematic views on women, not that women are "rude" or "shitty".

[Total Crica]

She's not obligated to letting me touch her in the same way that I'm not obligated to being cool with her manipulating me for an evening right until the point where I show my prince to the world (or her rather) before she tells me to fuck off.

As much as she has a right to tell me to stop, I have a right to be pissed off about it and tell her to hit the road.

be sure to let everyone know that the moment they tell you that they wants you to touch them, that they need to let you touch them until you are done wanting to touch them or they will not be worth your time and you will ask them to get out of your life and see how that works out for you ok?

[ls-]

Our mood is more stable than theirs / we need less input to be ready for the deed.

Damn, if I'm not in a mood to have sex, a girl can play with my dick for eternity, but it'll stay flaccid

[Granyala]

The only way a woman is a bitch, is if she only wanted stop to be a bitch. If she says stop, she'll have a reason and that reason should be respected.

Agreed. I think assuming that such a woman was only there to "lead the guy on" is wrong.
It's not uncommon to change your mind on a number of subjects once stuff starts to get real / serious.

[Frostweaver]

Stupid is stupid.. you don't blame stupid for being stupid you simply acknowledge it for for being itself.. btw there is no cure for stupid.. if you meet a stupid female.. please be sure you know she is stupid before getting in bed with her.. then you wont ever get to the point someone will say mid intercourse "STOP i suddenly don't want this any more". If you continue past that point by law is counted as rape. And by any logic it is rape since suddenly it is against other persons consent. Doesn't make it less stupid thou.

[Granyala]

Damn, if I'm not in a mood to have sex, a girl can play with my dick for eternity, but it'll stay flaccid

Naturally.
But once you are in the mood you are not that easily pushed out of it. That was my point.

[Slant]

This speaks a lot about you and your problematic views on women, not that women are "rude" or "shitty".

Actually, I hope it does. Because I'm not going to ask every 20 seconds if the woman is still okay with me touching her. Since, you know, that is the actual legal requirements for me to be on the safe side. But I'm really not surprised by your position at all either, really.

[ls-]

Anyway, I think there's a bit of confusion, some people are talking about one-night stands, others about sex in relationship o_O You just can't compare these two things...

[Granyala]

Stupid is stupid.. you don't blame stupid for being stupid you simply acknowledge it for for being itself.. btw there is no cure for stupid.. if you meet a stupid female.. please be sure you know she is stupid before getting in bed with her.. then you wont ever get to the point someone will say mid intercourse "STOP i suddenly don't want this any more".

Prime example of the egotistical "me me me want" view of the world.

There can be any number of reasons why a person (male of female) suddenly doesn't want to continue the sexual act. These reasons need to be respected.
Sex is also about trusting the other person. Trusting that they won't go too far and that they won't hurt me.

[PosPosPos]

You're not reasonable nor sane if you think someone is being "shitty" or "rude" if they don't want to do something they don't feel like doing.

Are you sure you don't want to look in the mirror for that? Because it's common knowledge that failing to live up to expectations and commitments is rude.

Sex is a commitment. If both parties are well on the way to having it, and either party asks to stop, it's breaking the commitment and is rude.

This speaks a lot about you and your problematic views on women, not that women are "rude" or "shitty".

From the majority opinion in this thread, your views are the problematic ones.

[Total Crica]

Actually, I hope it does. Because I'm not going to ask every 20 seconds if the woman is still okay with me touching her. Since, you know, that is the actual legal requirements for me to be on the safe side. But I'm really not surprised by your position at all either, really.

no one is saying you must ask every 5mins after being told you can touch her, they are saying that its not rude or shitty for the woman to no longer to want you to touch her and ask you to no longer touch her

[Granyala]

Anyway, I think there's a bit of confusion, some people are talking about one-night stands, others about sex in relationship o_O You just can't compare these two things...

While I agree that you cannot compare, the same rules still apply.
Whether it's your beloved wife or a half drunk hottie you just gobbled up and nail to your bed: you respect what the other person wants.

[PosPosPos]

Actually, I hope it does. Because I'm not going to ask every 20 seconds if the woman is still okay with me touching her. Since, you know, that is the actual legal requirements for me to be on the safe side. But I'm really not surprised by your position at all either, really.

There are just people who are incredibly unreasonable. Or simply don't have any...experience in the matter, e.g. naive, idealistic virgins.

Because anyone who's so much as done the act knows it's unreasonable to re-ask for consent every 20 seconds. Or to stop in the middle of a climax, or even foreplay.

[Total Crica]

Sex is a commitment.

no its not

and if you told that to anyone whom you are about to have sex with, i highly doubt you would be having sex with the majority of them anymore

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Are you sure you don't want to look in the mirror for that? Because it's common knowledge that failing to live up to expectations and commitments is rude.

Sex is a commitment. If both parties are well on the way to having it, and either party asks to stop, it's breaking the commitment and is rude.

No, it's not.

From the majority opinion in this thread, your views are the problematic ones.

Other people have problematic views on women, therefore your view is problematic!

Greeeeeeeeeat argument.

[Granyala]

Actually, I hope it does. Because I'm not going to ask every 20 seconds if the woman is still okay with me touching her. Since, you know, that is the actual legal requirements for me to be on the safe side. But I'm really not surprised by your position at all either, really.

No need to do that. She will make it clear when she is uncomfortable and wants you to stop.

You only obligation is to actually stop at that point.

[Granyala]

Sex is a commitment. If both parties are well on the way to having it, and either party asks to stop, it's breaking the commitment and is rude.

Excuse me?!
You are deluded.

A woman suddenly wanting to stop the act because, say she is in pain, is rude?

[Frostweaver]

@Granyala ....qouting just a part of my post..riiight.. egotistical? memememe? I dont care about the reasons in this argument the point of argument is that it is already too late to say no when both people are naked and doing it. And all i said was that if you get to know the person before you get into an intercourse you will already know if that person is like a candle in a wind or it actually knows what it wants.. so bugger off.. feeble minded peasant.