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    2 specs?

    I have been wondering this for some time since the DH will have 2 specs will that drive some people off from playing this class? I mean every class has 3 or more specs so far in the game and that means they have some variation to their class. Could it be that Blizz are lazy to make a 3rd spec? or is it just simple to just have 2 specs? I kinda feel like blizz have said there is no point in a 3rd spec lets just move onto its abilites and other content but I kinda feel like it would miss having another spec and we would just see 2 specs and it could get boring not having that 2nd dps spec or even 2nd tank spec it could of been either one but I saw this class and thought it was going to be a full on DPS based class but it is nice to see that they added a tank spec to this class so it will be interesting to see how this plays out in the beta of Legion. Let me know your ideas or opinions on this.



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    Personally, I tend to pick the two specs I want at the beginning of an expansion, and rarely switch around. So for me, this makes no difference at all.
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    Two specs is fine. There are already hundreds of abilities in the game. Most have similar abilities in other classes. Adding a third spec would mean having to dilute each of the 3 specs even more.

    I much rather have 2 fun and fresh specs, than 3 watered down versions. Blizz made the right call.

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    I agree having just the 2 specs that are different to any other would be awesome. Sorry about puncuation I get carried away when im typing loads :/

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    Because a 2nd melee DPS spec might not feel noticeably different from the one we're getting. And a ranged Demon Hunter is basically a Demonology Warlock without the pet.

    Healing Demon Hunter? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horkie View Post
    I have been wondering this for some time since the DH will have 2 specs will that drive some people off from playing this class? I mean every class has 3 or more specs so far in the game and that means they have some variation to their class. Could it be that Blizz are lazy to make a 3rd spec? or is it just simple to just have 2 specs? I kinda feel like blizz have said there is no point in a 3rd spec lets just move onto its abilites and other content but I kinda feel like it would miss having another spec and we would just see 2 specs and it could get boring not having that 2nd dps spec or even 2nd tank spec it could of been either one but I saw this class and thought it was going to be a full on DPS based class but it is nice to see that they added a tank spec to this class so it will be interesting to see how this plays out in the beta of Legion. Let me know your ideas or opinions on this.



    Horkie.
    Obviously you have made your own mind up, that blizzard are making a bad decision without considering the argument they made.
    Nothing we say is going to convince you.

    I have to agree with Mystrome, in that we have to ask just what another tank or another melee dps spec would bring.
    Healer/ranged roles are really grasping at straws.

    Blizzard are trying out something different, a shift from what has been an "expectation", though perhaps more due to habit than being a good design.
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    I don't mind the 2 specs as long as they're not too simple, not that I want a ultra hard complicated rotation. I just hope that they don't go overboard with trying to keep a small ability rotation.IMO the ability pruning could go overboard and ruin this game for me at least. I like MMO's because of the larger library of spells/abilities andThis game isn't a moba and shouldn't be treated as such.Although with that being said I also would hate them to make it something too complicated with no real substance or power behind it.

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    nah.
    it allows them to give one spec all of the essence of the class, instead of spreading it out into another spec.
    i think players might actually enjoy it and it might be the precursor to removal of all third specs, minus paladin and druid, maybe.

    Blizzard could ability prune a little bit more, but not much.
    Take a look at SWTOR, that game is in desperate need of ability pruning, i mean you have like 3 of the same abilities with the same range, focus cost and damage, wtf.
    and you have like 14 button rotations.

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    I think they only got that much material to work into the DH class and they decided that making 2 great specs was better than making 3 so-so specs. Most people tend to stick to 2 specs anyway so I don't see it as a bad thing. To be fair, I can see this as a solution for most classes. Assuming there was no outrage when people have their favorite spec removed this could work for pretty much every class that has more than one spec per role.

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    I'm fine with only having 2 specs, means I don't have to pine over the missing spec I don't take lol.

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    The reason everyone plays 2 specs is that is what Blizzard allows. If they would allow 3 specs, I bet a significant portion of the WoW community would do it. Or even 4 specs for druids. Some classes could be trimmed to only 2 specs, like the pure dps classes. But the others could be viable if they were allowed to have 3. And again, Druids could use 4!

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    I'm also fine with only having 2 specs, even if they made only 1 dps spec and no tanking spec i would be fine with it..
    The tanking is a nice optional choice, but nowhere supported by lore.. at least non that i know of.

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    DHs having only 2 specs is a good sign. Blizzard is clearly getting rid of the restrictions they set on themselves like "At least 3 specs for each class! Try to have 1 expansion each year!", which means they can put more effort into their products and improve the overall quality of the experience.
    Plus, I can't see Demon Hunters being ranged or healing so it makes sense for them to just have 2 specs representing defensive and offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shade3891 View Post
    I'm also fine with only having 2 specs, even if they made only 1 dps spec and no tanking spec i would be fine with it..
    The tanking is a nice optional choice, but nowhere supported by lore.. at least non that i know of.
    I'm personally fine with the 2 specs. The Lore states somewhere I think in the old Warcraft RPG (That's no longer canon, but bits and pieces are trickled in and reintroduced as canon in the game and books) that the Metamorphosis changes depending on a different number of variables, such as the personality of the Demon Hunter, the way they use their power, etc.

    An argument could be made for a Ranged demon hunter, and due to the lore of most of them being able to do basic mage arts, would be plausible, it's little more than a ripoff of Destro warlocks and/or Mages for that. And not wanting that, but focusing on class identity, they dropped the 3 spec idea to keep Demon Hunters feeling unique all around.

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    A lot of classes could go without a 3rd spec tbh. Rogues, Warriors, Hunters, Priests, Locks, Mages, DKs - they could all have 2 specs, or even 1. If they fleshed out a better talent tree so you could have spells/abilities from the specs they would lose, it could have worked fine. It wouldn't work now, because that kind of revamp would require WoW2, but it could have initially.

    Pallys, Monks, Shammys, and Druids are the only ones who really need all of their specs, because each fills a different role. Having 2 or 3 of the same role (Melee DPS or Ranged DPS) is really just diluting the class. It gives the players a feeling like they're missing out on something because we can have 2 specs. That's one of the reasons I'm so excited to play DH - I'll be able to play every spec and not feel like maybe I need to switch one of my chosen specs to perform better.
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    If you look at it objectively (which few people do) in order to add a new class you must look at the state of what you have and where you wanna go. Its fairly obvious the choice of a ranged demon hunter spec came up during the design process. Almost certainly over 50% of what they would have given a ranged spec they decided to give it to demonology warlocks instead

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    I gotta say, this class and the 2 spec thing actually had me considering coming back, will keep an eye on future topics about it.

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    I -love- the 2 spec thing, means that i wouldnt be pingeholed into that 3rd awfull spec because it does better dps and its better for the raid bla bla bla"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihal View Post
    I -love- the 2 spec thing, means that i wouldnt be pingeholed into that 3rd awfull spec because it does better dps and its better for the raid bla bla bla"
    Amen. It's been the most annoying thing to be forced into Destro for this last patch.... again.

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    I don't know.. I think it's lazy. But other than a Diablo-esque DH specc I can't think of a third one myself. As long as the two will be different enough I'm fine with it, but never happy.

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