Pre-procing trinkets changed?

[Crewsix]

Anyone else notice their trinkets reseting on boss pull starting today?

[Heckadots]

can confirm this happened to me tonight. I had it disappear on pull all together, i even had it disappear on pull them reappear with 11s on the buff.

[Mcbenchpress]

Can also confirm, trinkets are broken. You do the normal precast and they proc, then the buff immediately disappears when you enter combat.

[Cyous]

Good fix then. Double-proc'ing was silly.

[Deleted]

Im glad its gone but the way it works now is just.... eh.

It clears your proc on pull and you just dont get another for like 20secs.

[Raggarvalle]

I switched Wrath to Starsurge and it works.

[lappee]

I switched Wrath to Starsurge and it works.

This is false, buffs from trinkets get removed upon encounter start event.

[Juvencus]

Does this make BRF trinkets inferior in all cases now? I assume you would need to pre-cast Starfire if you don't want to pre-proc your trinket and have it down for the duration of CA.

[Lionor]

This is false, buffs from trinkets get removed upon encounter start event.

So I guess we're back to:

-3 Inc
-1.5 Pre-pot + SS (or wrath?)
0 MF + CA

Opener?

[lappee]

Does this make BRF trinkets inferior in all cases now? I assume you would need to pre-cast Starfire if you don't want to pre-proc your trinket and have it down for the duration of CA.

Not so sure about BRF trinkets but HFC trinkets dont proc from cast_succes but rather on the damage/healing component thus you cant pre-proc them without rejuvs up.

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So I guess we're back to:

-3 Inc
-1.5 Pre-pot + SS (or wrath?)
0 MF + CA

Opener?

I'm prolly gonna stick with normal wrath opener because I'm so used to it but we'll see. Technically the best would be to use Starfire pre-cast but executing it is rather hard comparing to the reward you're getting.

The differences between Wrath/Starfire/Starsurge openers are minimal. Figuring out best way to use your CD's in each encounter is by far more important.

[Lionor]

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Thanks for the insight! I guess then that the rejuv casts are not worth it either anymore (assuming HFC trinkets)? Or is the whole point of using rejuvs to workaround the hotfix for double-proccing?

[Juvencus]

Not so sure about BRF trinkets but HFC trinkets dont proc from cast_succes but rather on the damage/healing component thus you cant pre-proc them without rejuvs up.

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I'm prolly gonna stick with normal wrath opener because I'm so used to it but we'll see. Technically the best would be to use Starfire pre-cast but executing it is rather hard comparing to the reward you're getting.

The differences between Wrath/Starfire/Starsurge openers are minimal. Figuring out best way to use your CD's in each encounter is by far more important.

I thought the hotfix covered BRF trinkets as well. I think I've had the proc drop from Darmac's the last couple of raids, but I might be mistaken.

[lappee]

I thought the hotfix covered BRF trinkets as well. I think I've had the proc drop from Darmac's the last couple of raids, but I might be mistaken.

Buff removal hotfix covers BRF trinkets, but BRF trinkets used to proc from cast_succes events rather than damage component thus using for example wrath could trigger them and then screw over the next proc.
I'm not sure whether thats the case now but in anyway I'll just stick with SoC+DSI in every fight.

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Thanks for the insight! I guess then that the rejuv casts are not worth it either anymore (assuming HFC trinkets)? Or is the whole point of using rejuvs to workaround the hotfix for double-proccing?

Rejuvs will only result in a possible dps loss and shouldnt be used on pre-pull situations with any trinket combination.

Assuming the fix is working like it should work. I didnt to extensive testing on it, rather just pulled SoO first boss couple times to test whether there was any truth on the nerf.

[Deleted]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...89&end=2046323
It clears the buff, but the 2nd proc will still happen. So if for some weird reason you want to delay cds for 20 seconds I guess you can still use preprocing. Other than that yeah.. rejuv dps loss now

[Raggarvalle]

This is false, buffs from trinkets get removed upon encounter start event.

Ye my bad, my trinket display addon didnt sync correctly with my buffs.