1. #9861
    Quote Originally Posted by Xnm View Post
    Arms is most definitely still playable/extremely competitive without ayala's, although the ring is a massive increase to the spec as you can tell by looking at logs. Pretty much every single warrior parse on the first page of each boss consists of the helm/ring combo.
    Not sure what you mean with "extremely competitive" but it is not a top spec without the ring and fury will be doing better, as will most other classes and specs.
    If you're also missing the helmet or even tier then the spec is at the absolute bottom.

  2. #9862
    Ring ist like 8-10% of your dps. If fury or arms is better depends on your gear, arte lvl and so on.

    I play arms, because i just like it better than fury, got all legos but ayala's and helm (which is super unlucky and yes i'm mad about this! ), can compete with our other dds and put up "okisch" scores on WoL.

  3. #9863
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Not sure what you mean with "extremely competitive" but it is not a top spec without the ring and fury will be doing better, as will most other classes and specs.
    If you're also missing the helmet or even tier then the spec is at the absolute bottom.
    Can't post any links yet, but look up Exenem on Illidan US. Basing my arms still being "competitive" opinion on my own personal experiences.

    KJBW/Leap Shoulders with 95+ oranges on 7 out of 9 in heroic, 9 out of 9 in normal. Just reinforcing my statement that arms is definitely playable without the must have legends.

  4. #9864
    Quote Originally Posted by Xnm View Post
    Can't post any links yet, but look up Exenem on Illidan US. Basing my arms still being "competitive" opinion on my own personal experiences.

    KJBW/Leap Shoulders with 95+ oranges on 7 out of 9 in heroic, 9 out of 9 in normal. Just reinforcing my statement that arms is definitely playable without the must have legends.
    Sure but other classes are just better and you'd do 200k-300k more with the right gear.
    No other spec needs the right legendaries as much as arms. Simple as that.

  5. #9865
    When you have to swap out lego gloves for aggramar's because it enables 4pc feelsbadman

  6. #9866
    Just started gearing my arms warr and got gloves. Are these still Bis/near BiS?

  7. #9867
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demondied1 View Post
    Just started gearing my arms warr and got gloves. Are these still Bis/near BiS?
    they were third place behind execute ring and crash helmet. both of those were just nerfed by 50% so I think MS gloves may be bis again in terms of numbers.

  8. #9868
    according to skyhold discord ring+ help still bis

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