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    I get that many Carson supporters find his biography to be inspiring. If his biography is to believed, it is truly inspiring, but his life story alone does not qualify him to be President. There are plenty of people who have cleaned up, found Jesus, and did not profit from it. I'm always suspicious of any Christian who profits off of their redemption because, in my view, that seems to be antithetical to Christ's teachings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freese View Post
    I get that many Carson supporters find his biography to be inspiring. If his biography is to believed, it is truly inspiring, but his life story alone does not qualify him to be President. There are plenty of people who have cleaned up, found Jesus, and did not profit from it. I'm always suspicious of any Christian who profits off of their redemption because, in my view, that seems to be antithetical to Christ's teachings.
    This could be applied to every human being, and even the current person with the pretty smile sitting in the office. He books were inspiring, his speeches the same, but that also did not qualify him a not even complete one term senator to be president. Hope and Change, was more of a sham that even his own party did not totally embraced or he would of got far more done his first term with having control of both house that they probably would not of lost to the republican had they all got more done.

    Change came, because they could not even get a decent healthcare bill past and then turn around blame the repubs for bucking him the rest of the way. Maybe if the dems would of taken care of business, they would still be in control of both house. Sadly will never know, but one thing is for sure that not every dems is a socialist or a progressive or the president would of got more done through his own without having to worry about republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apexis View Post
    This could be applied to every human being, and even the current person with the pretty smile sitting in the office. He books were inspiring, his speeches the same, but that also did not qualify him a not even complete one term senator to be president. Hope and Change, was more of a sham that even his own party did not totally embraced or he would of got far more done his first term with having control of both house that they probably would not of lost to the republican had they all got more done.

    Change came, because they could not even get a decent healthcare bill past and then turn around blame the repubs for bucking him the rest of the way. Maybe if the dems would of taken care of business, they would still be in control of both house. Sadly will never know, but one thing is for sure that not every dems is a socialist or a progressive or the president would of got more done through his own without having to worry about republicans.
    Obama's campaign was not run on the strength of his biography. It was mostly run on his policies. Carson has presented some policies, but he is largely running on the strength of his biography.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freese View Post
    I get that many Carson supporters find his biography to be inspiring. If his biography is to believed, it is truly inspiring, but his life story alone does not qualify him to be President. There are plenty of people who have cleaned up, found Jesus, and did not profit from it. I'm always suspicious of any Christian who profits off of their redemption because, in my view, that seems to be antithetical to Christ's teachings.
    Thats what I have been saying about Obama all a long, writes books about how great he is, served only 2 years in as a senator and we elect him during an ecenomic crises. No wonder he keeps flubbing things up

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    He always seems like he is really high every time I hear him talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Thats what I have been saying about Obama all a long, writes books about how great he is, served only 2 years in as a senator and we elect him during an ecenomic crises. No wonder he keeps flubbing things up
    No, we elected him because of what preceded him. There was no way that a republican was going to beat a democrat candidate while Bush was still in office, unemployment was sky rocketing, two wars that seemed without an end, the Dow plummeting to a 6500 and constant bank failures. People who think he was elected because of biography or some version of white guilt, have blinders on for what actually was happening at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    No, we elected him because of what preceded him. There was no way that a republican was going to beat a democrat candidate while Bush was still in office, unemployment was sky rocketing, two wars that seemed without an end, the Dow plummeting to a 6500 and constant bank failures. People who think he was elected because of biography or some version of white guilt, have blinders on for what actually was happening at the time.
    Why did he have to be the one nominated, you do realize more than one democrat ran for President, why would you big a JV player for the final game? Hitler could have ran as the democrat nominee and he still would have been voted in over a Republican

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Why did he have to be the one nominated, you do realize more than one democrat ran for President, why would you big a JV player for the final game? Hitler could have ran as the democrat nominee and he still would have been voted in over a Republican
    Comparing Obama to what Carson is claiming he did is pants on head retarded. Obama didn't try to kill his best friend or his mother. Carson is lucky he isn't being investigated for attempted murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Why did he have to be the one nominated, you do realize more than one democrat ran for President, why would you big a JV player for the final game? Hitler could have ran as the democrat nominee and he still would have been voted in over a Republican
    Because his opponent was Hillary... Feel free to read the many threads on why Hillory is a shitty candidate for next year and apply it to then. If Berny had a resonating message like Obama had and didn't have the socialist stigma tattoo on his forehead, she would be in the same position now. In fact, Bernie supporters use Obama's victory as justification for them having a chance in the primaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Comparing Obama to what Carson is claiming he did is pants on head retarded. Obama didn't try to kill his best friend or his mother. Carson is lucky he isn't being investigated for attempted murder.
    Seeing how no one can confirm his stories, it would be hard to find the victim in these cases for persecution. I don't even understand the sort of belt buckle one needs to have, where stabbing wouldn't make the knife slide down or up from force and instead break the knife. That's a bad ass belt buckle... I want one... or I guess a shitty knife...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Because his opponent was Hillary... Feel free to read the many threads on why Hillory is a shitty candidate for next year and apply it to then. If Berny had a resonating message like Obama had and didn't have the socialist stigma tattoo on his forehead, she would be in the same position now. In fact, Bernie supporters use Obama's victory as justification for them having a chance in the primaries.

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    Seeing how no one can confirm his stories, it would be hard to find the victim in these cases for persecution. I don't even understand the sort of belt buckle one needs to have, where stabbing wouldn't make the knife slide down or up from force and instead break the knife. That's a bad ass belt buckle... I want one... or I guess a shitty knife...
    Well they showed it apparently in the movie "Gifted Hands" that was about his book. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1295085/?ref_=nv_sr_1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    No, we elected him because of what preceded him. There was no way that a republican was going to beat a democrat candidate while Bush was still in office, unemployment was sky rocketing, two wars that seemed without an end, the Dow plummeting to a 6500 and constant bank failures. People who think he was elected because of biography or some version of white guilt, have blinders on for what actually was happening at the time.
    I agree. I blame Bush for Obama getting elected. This is why Jeb Bush is struggling in his presidential bid and I hope he is not nominated.

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