[Terrorism] When is enough, enough?

[zetitup]

So today i read that there is a hostage situation in Mali, with around 90? ish hostages taken at a hotel by jihads.

So my question is, do you trust your government in doing what is needed to prevent terrorism in your country?
How long will it take before things go out of control? In my opinion we are not far from people having enough, creating their own "anti-terrorism" groups, gathering groups and starting wars all over the world and killing people they belive is terrorists. Causing even more terrorism.
Specially in europe, it seems that most governments goes like "Stop it, terrorists!" will actually make the terrorists stop what they are doing.
Why should we care about their lives if they don't care about ours?
Now i know someone will say that "We will just be as bad as they are if we start killing people", but, here's a big but, are you ok with sitting there accepting that they are doing that and you do not want to defend yourself? Im pretty sure that if some terrorists attacked your home and your family you wouldn't think twice about defending yourself. But here it seems that some european countries are satisfied to let the terrorists come into your "home" (country in this case) instead of joining the rest of the world which is actually doing something, sending soldiers etc.

TL;DR: Are you satisfied with your countries part of defeating terrorism?

(I say terrorist here, not any culture, race w/e, so keep that out here, if you have terroristic goals you are a terrorist no matter what)

[ParanoiD84]

We stopped a few in sweden today or yesterday who was planing to do a attack in the Capitol city. They are freaking everywhere.

[apples]

thinking you can grab a bunch of your friends and stop terrorists in your town by harassing random minorities

this is why we cant have nice things

[Azadina]

So, what exactly did you have in mind? Round up minorities, religious people and so forth, and execute them, "just to be sure"?

[Jessicka]

There will always be terrorists as long as there are excuses to terrorise.

[ParanoiD84]

There will always be terrorists as long as there are excuses to terrorise.

They will always find a reason even if we don't do shit, hell they still use the crusades as a reason to commit terror acts on the west.

[Revi]

I think France has been on the right track this past week. Huge surge in acting on people who have been on watch lists for ages and a determination to shut down mosques that preach hate or harbor extremists.

It's very difficult legally, but it's something I think is needed.

[Nachturnal]

I don't get where people come to the conclusion that some people aren't sick and tired of this shit. Everyone is. It's incredibly frustrating. But what exactly can be done? You're not just fighting people. You're fighting an ideology. These shit heads aren't afraid to die, their numbers grow by the day, and there's a plethora of terrorist groups now, spawned over years of dissent. They have a skewed view of the world based on some super messed up interpretation of their holy book. We can pull out of the region, we can keep bombing them, nothing will change. That's the sad part. They have some fucked up, super villain agenda. It's ridiculous.

It's such a tough situation to deal with. Unless you plan to wipe the entire region off the map, this is gonna keep happening. It's that bad. I only wish with the migrant crisis that European countries would be more strict with their border access. Most of the problem can be dealt with within our own borders. Handling it outside of them is the tough part.

[Deleted]

I think France has been on the right track this past week. Huge surge in acting on people who have been on watch lists for ages and a determination to shut down mosques that preach hate or harbor extremists.

It's very difficult legally, but it's something I think is needed.

Radical muslims will feel like they stand in the cold shivering not realising that they wear no coat.

[Puupi]

I think France has been on the right track this past week. Huge surge in acting on people who have been on watch lists for ages and a determination to shut down mosques that preach hate or harbor extremists.

It's very difficult legally, but it's something I think is needed.

This should be done in all European countries _before_ any attacks happen.

[Dellis0991]

I don't get where people come to the conclusion that some people aren't sick and tired of this shit. Everyone is. It's incredibly frustrating. But what exactly can be done? You're not just fighting people. You're fighting an ideology. These shit heads aren't afraid to die, their numbers grow by the day, and there's a plethora of terrorist groups now, spawned over years of dissent. They have a skewed view of the world based on some super messed up interpretation of their holy book. We can pull out of the region, we can keep bombing them, nothing will change. That's the sad part. They have some fucked up, super villain agenda. It's ridiculous.

It's such a tough situation to deal with. Unless you plan to wipe the entire region off the map, this is gonna keep happening. It's that bad. I only wish with the migrant crisis that European countries would be more strict with their border access. Most of the problem can be dealt with within our own borders. Handling it outside of them is the tough part.

I agree, you can't kill a ideology, these fuckers can't be reasoned with and they made it bad for the people who fled the horrors hoping to find some peace. I feel for the refugees.

[Deleted]

Religious fundamentalism is one of the worst plagues that can be catched by a human mind.

It drives 2 more plagues: racism and nationalism.

Entire country is being riled up against anything Muslim related. Everybody is being force-fed these infos and the comments under them seethe with hatred. They aren't even moderated anymore here. Hating muslims is being upvoted, it's like it's socially accepted now. Their favorite counterargument is "but every terrorist is a muslim"

I know migrants that lived in my neighborhood for 20+ years. They're scared to come out of their houses now. Incidents of non-whites getting beaten and robbed are becoming widespread. Some of them live here for a very long time, work here and pay the taxes.

All this because frau Merkel is executing her open arms policy with total lack of selection on these migrants.

Nothing good ever comes out of religious fundamentalists invading your hood.

[Ealyssa]

Actually the simple fact that terrorism is so easy and that their is so little attack worldwide is proof that :

-Most countries are good at fighting it. Remember that intelligence service need some luck on every single prevented attacks to success. Terrorists only need luck once.
-That terrorism is far from "out of control". Of course their are some attacks, that are horrible. But a few thousands terrorists worldwide is amazingly low when you really think about it. And how a single act of terror is easy to prepare.

[Jessicka]

They will always find a reason even if we don't do shit, hell they still use the crusades as a reason to commit terror acts on the west.

I was speaking more generally than just Islamic terrorists. There are plenty of other excuses that people can, will, and indeed are using right now. Whether Communist, Nationalist, Fascist, Anarchist, Racist, or any other Religion or even affiliation to a particular criminal cartel.

[Deleted]

Actually the simple fact that terrorism is so easy and that their is so little attack worldwide is proof that :

-Most countries are good at fighting it. Remember that intelligence service need some luck on every single prevented attacks to success. Terrorists only need luck once.
-That terrorism is far from "out of control". Of course their are some attacks, that are horrible. But a few thousands terrorists worldwide is amazingly low when you really think about it. And how a single act of terror is easy to prepare.

Paris had 3 major muslims terror attacks and one failed one this year alone.

France is under attack by radical Islam.

[Jessicka]

Paris had 3 major muslims terror attacks and one failed one this year alone.

France is under attack by radical Islam.

I think the demographic of the attackers says a lot more about what they're under attack from than any form of 'Islam'. They're under attack from disenfranchised minority youths; seems they were all petty criminals, used drink and drugs and had been until very recently, very un-Islamic. They were easy targets to be radicalised because of their North African Muslim heritage.

[Deleted]

Radical muslims feel they have been victimised by the West.

Feeling like a victim enables them to feel like any actions are justified in response to the cruel treatment they or their kind has suffered.

Victim olympics is what allows people to feel morally entitled to act cruel and evil while retaining the moral high ground.

Actually victimising them only grants them the moral high ground they wish for.

[Breccia]

How long will it take before things go out of control?

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

That ship has sailed, son.

[Ryme]

How do you propose to stop them?

[stevenho]

It will take a lot of balls, a lot of disregard for political correctness and a lot of shattered dreams of leftist multicultural lovers to stop the process that is accelerating rapidly in recent years. Either it will happen soon within 10-15 years, or europe as we knew it throughout the 2nd part of 20th century will cease to exist.

Regarding terrorist attacks - take notice how many organized (as in not carried out by single maniacs) terrorist attacks were there in the USA since 9/11 - so 14 years.
The answer is zero. Trading some of your privacy for safety seems to be working working so far.