>Illidan Book< Spoilers from Red Shirt Guy

[Shampro]

http://www.scrollsoflore.com/forums/...d.php?t=220628

I'm more than half way through Illidan, and am really enjoying it so far. Its definitely the darkest WoW novel, with some scenes on par with Bleeding Sun (the Sunwalker Dezco short story). I won't spoil everything or provide a summary (I still have to do a review for Blizzplanet a little closer to release), but here are a few things:

-The dreadlord homeworld is called Nathreza. It's not the world they were worshipping the void lords on mentioned in Chronicle.

-Worlds that belong to races in the Legion are not destroyed, instead they remain inhabited and intact. Nathreza is full of giant cities and gleaming obsidian towers, all fel-corrupted of course.

-These Legion worlds are among the "areas significantly covered in fel magic" mentioned in Chronicle. If a demon is killed on Nathreza or Argus, etc. they die permanently.

-Illidan's master plan which would have succeeded if a raid group didn't kill him, was to open a portal to Argus and kill Archimonde and Kil'jaeden there.

-It confirms the "only one Legion across all realities" stuff, and explains how that works, and that Archimonde is still alive after Warcraft III.

-Illidan is not portrayed as a hero, the idea being, and outright said by one of the main characters (a demon hunter named Vandel) is basically "Yes, Illidan's a madman, but he's the only one capable of defeating the Burning Legion so that's we follow him."

-The book isn't kind to Maiev. Even Akama says she's no better than Illidan.

-While we were busy questing in Outland, Illidan and his demon hunters committed the single greatest defeat the Legion had suffered "in millenia" by destroying Nathreza using the same portal magic that blew up Draenor.

It does mention that every world that doesn't end up joining the Legion is left a lifeless Mardum or Outland type husk (though not shattered, just lifeless and barren). It's only places like Nathreza and Argus that remain intact strongholds.

His demon hunter army was his trump card. They tore through Nathreza's armies like a blade through tissue paper, with the added benefit of the demons' deaths being permanent.

There is a line that seems kind of like its implying Illidan won't come back to life in Legion.

It's mentioned that if his soul were to be severed from his body, he could never be resurrected and would be stuck as a spirit for all eternity. That sounds a lot like what Gul'dan did with his body in Black Rook Hold.

(I doubt this one because he has a new model, so its just speculation)

Well, I finished the book. It's really good, probably one of my favorite WoW novels.

Don't worry, Illidan does some very awful stuff too. Two things in particular are so heinous in an "ends justify the means" way that they're what cause Akama to free Maiev and rise up against him despite the threat of the Shade.

Also, the ending is pretty major. I won't spoil it, but it has some important lore that makes me see why the book came out after Chronicle, it wouldn't make sense otherwise without some of the information from it. I'll give you one hint though: Sylvannas isn't Kerrigan.

Last note: I really hope Vandel (one of the point of view characters who I'm pretty sure is meant to be William King's actual character he plays in WoW based on one interview) shows up in game. He's given waaaay too much importance in the plot for it to make sense for him to just never be brought up again

Sylvanas appears?

Not at all. I was referring to how everyone was saying in the Legion thread that Sylvannas was going to end up being like Kerrigan at the end of LotV. She's not the one you should be comparing Kerrigan to... And that's all I'll say on it.

Illidan likes Vashj most out of his advisers because she's the only one who seems to be completely, unwavering loyal to him. He doesn't care at all when he learns she died, though.

We're portrayed as misguided fools who are doing the Burning Legion's bidding for them and destroying our best chance at defeating them. To say more would be spoiling things too far.

[DemonHunter18]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

[Shampro]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

I don't have the book so how would I know?

[Ilir]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

The same way we did ??????

[Vynestra]

Yes yes more lore....gief all the lore...

[Kallisto]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

Likely by converting all the demons that he was doing before we attacked him for loots

[Abysthor]

While we were busy questing in Outland, Illidan and his demon hunters committed the single greatest defeat the Legion had suffered "in millenia" by destroying Nathreza using the same portal magic that blew up Draenor.

Damn, now I need to get this book.

[purebalance]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

I mean they said he destroyed an entire planet like Nerzhul did.

[Gib Lover]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

Took an entire raid to kill Illidan.
Took an entire raid to kill Archimonde twice and Kil'jaden once.
If we never sent a raid to the Black Temple, Illidan and all his lieutenants (who also took an entire raid to kill) would have attacked with his entire army. I'm not saying he would win, but he would certainly make a decent attempt.

[DemonHunter18]

I mean they said he destroyed an entire planet like Nerzhul did.

true.Illidan is a bad ass,attacking the Legion and their Demon Lords head on and even blowing up their planet.

[Deleted]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

Army of fel wisps and murlocs (actually no idea).

[Shampro]

Couple more points from RSG

Sort of. The basic idea is that when Sargeras wants to destroy all of creation, he means all of it, so the Legion is trying to destroy every AU as well, since all of them stem from the MU.

There is a line that seems kind of like its implying Illidan won't come back to life in Legion.

It's mentioned that if his soul were to be severed from his body, he could never be resurrected and would be stuck as a spirit for all eternity. That sounds a lot like what Gul'dan did with his body in Black Rook Hold.

His demon hunter army was his trump card. They tore through Nathreza's armies like a blade through tissue paper, with the added benefit of the demons' deaths being permanent.

I bet we'll find a way to help him get through, regarding point 2.

It does mention that every world that doesn't end up joining the Legion is left a lifeless Mardum or Outland type husk (though not shattered, just lifeless and barren). It's only places like Nathreza and Argus that remain intact strongholds.

[Deleted]

I mean they said he destroyed an entire planet like Nerzhul did.

I keep reading this and I don't know where the "Ner'zhul destroyed a planet" came from. All he did was to open multiple portals on a very rotten Draenor that would die anyway sooner or later.

[Soeroah]

Gah, how'd he get a copy already? It's a month away!

He could at least not put spoilers up... Blizzard's awfully lax on its spoiler policy when it doesn't have to be.

Thanks for tagging the topic appropriately though, OP, I just know there will be plenty who don't.

[Lanfear1]

Army of fel wisps and murlocs (actually no idea).

Nothing survives 2. anyfin

[Deleted]

Gah, how'd he get a copy already? It's a month away!

He could at least not put spoilers up... Blizzard's awfully lax on its spoiler policy when it doesn't have to be.

Thanks for tagging the topic appropriately though, OP, I just know there will be plenty who don't.

Blizzard most likely sent him a copy for review.

Sort of. The basic idea is that when Sargeras wants to destroy all of creation, he means all of it, so the Legion is trying to destroy every AU as well, since all of them stem from the MU.

So, they finally tied everything up to Nozdormu and the Infinite Dragonflight. Our Azeroth is Azeroth-Prime and all the timelines (or perhaps timeways?) come from the Prime Universe.

So the question is how did the Multiverse started?

[Krazzorx]

Gah, how'd he get a copy already? It's a month away!

He could at least not put spoilers up... Blizzard's awfully lax on its spoiler policy when it doesn't have to be.

Thanks for tagging the topic appropriately though, OP, I just know there will be plenty who don't.

Things like this probably peak people's interest more to actually read the full book. I know reading this just did for me.

[Mace]

Illidan is looking pretty badass - i wonder what spin would be put on the crazy

it sorta seems that he is crazy in the sense of the extremes he would go to, to accomplish the task,... but even after a 10,000 year impronment and a defeat to Arthas, we are shown that he also has boundaries he won't cross, stakes are extremely high for him but even with him it isn't at "every cost"

also, Illidan would have to be portrayed as potentially more powerful than we were given him credit for off the defeat to Arthas -- howz that going to be presented I wonder -- they gonna portray Illidan as still weak from a 10k imprisonment? or still way too knew to his new found powers and control issues cost him the fight? or he was no where near his maximum potential when he fought Arthas?

i wonder.

How will we react to Illidan - would we like him? he has always ben an alternative-hero type, the dark-hero type as contrasted by the purer hero type his brother portrays. We don't understand Malfruion's princples or ideals so we disrespect him for upholding them at sometimes very great cost, but most of us really don't know much and quite confused about almost everything in life - especially when it comes to good/evil, right and wrong, I chalk it down to youth and pride - something hopefully time will fix.

would be interesting to see or rather read.

[Kathranis]

and how the hell would Illidan kill Archimonde and Kil'jaden????

Raid Finder.


Okay, on a serious note, kinda disappointed that the nathrezim homeworld is already destroyed, though I suppose fragments of it could still remain.

[Benomatic]

Blizzard most likely sent him a copy for review.



So, they finally tied everything up to Nozdormu and the Infinite Dragonflight. Our Azeroth is Azeroth-Prime and all the timelines (or perhaps timeways?) come from the Prime Universe.

So the question is how did the Multiverse started?

Probably when the retcon time travel where broxigar got the enchanted wood axe. War of the ancients I think? Kalec thrall brox?