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    After a long time of playing now, Widowmaker is easily the best and most imbalanced

    She needs some tweaks. Her acid bomb should probably do less damage or not last as long, her charge rate is super fast and should probably be slower, her ultimate is so useful that most people play her just to give the team wall hack.

    Honestly it's hard to find a reason to not play as her, since she brings so much and can wall an enemy team really hard.

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    The bomb doesn't do a lot of damage - it does medium damage over a long period of time. I use it mainly as a warning if someone is approaching me in my blind spot, giving me time to escape/return fire. Her charge rate is still a few seconds, do you suggest she should have to aim for 5-7 seconds before she can kill a tracer?

    She is not the best hero, this is a team based game with rock-paper-scissor mechanics. You're probably just running in a straight line in open areas.

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    If your enemy has a decent player on a flanker hero your Widowmaker will be next to useless.
    So yes, if you leave her be she is a pretty strong pick on most maps but she has her counters.
    Also if you know the maps good enough it's not that hard to hide out of her LoS for long times.

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    I've met maybe one Widowmaker on the opposite team that truly was giving my team a hard time no matter what we did... I don't know, maybe that's because I play a lot of Reinhard and don't give a f*** when she shoots at me or too much D.Va and I fly straight at her to make her life a little bit more like hell. She's not invincible but I understand using her on the defensive. People simply have to run at you and you have some sweet time sniping them most of the time. But on the offensive? Widowmaker is one of the worst attack heroes I've seen. Lost a lot of games because of a stupid camping Widowmaker that never cared about taking the point. Vision is a nice thing but I would take a Hanzo in the team on the attack over a Widowmaker any day of the week.

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    Maybe I just suck but I tend to find her the most frustrating to play...I mean she's pretty good when it comes to open fights where everyone is in aim distance but other maps /set ups, it can be a long waiting game.

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    :-D Another one who jumped on "Hero XX is overpowered" wagon... Are all these threads really necessary?

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    I think she needs to be balanced around headshots and not body shots. Currently she can make quick work of anyone that isn't a tank using only body shots. Should be more incentive to be going for headshots imo by nerfing body shot damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylarking View Post
    I think she needs to be balanced around headshots and not body shots. Currently she can make quick work of anyone that isn't a tank using only body shots. Should be more incentive to be going for headshots imo by nerfing body shot damage.
    Yeah, because other heroes really lack damage and movement, right?

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    i mostly play widowmaker as i love being the sniper, just waiting to pick someone off

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    Nope. Junkrat is, and that's pretty clear by his popularity, I don't think I was in one game yesterday without at least one on either side. The guy can be an absolute game changer with that wheelon the attack, and his indirect fire is fantastic suppression for defence. Just a fantastic all rounder.

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    She is the strongest hero after Mccree in my opinion, but she only needs a small nerf, and not to her sniping capabilities, probably something that will allow vertically capable heroes other than Genji to counter her, like Winston and D.va are supposed to counter her but they do not, especially D.va is really easy to deal with, maybe a bit of assault rifle mode nerf or 2 seconds longer cooldown on grapple

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    i find most widowmakers on my team lose me the game, i dont mind one that can get kills but apparently people suck at aiming so they are not getting kills or contesting a point

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    Only thing I would change is, to add a shake effect if she gets hit, while zooming in. Like she get's hit by a phara rocket and the visor moves not an inch, like nothing happend. That is super annoying. Everything else seems kinda ok. Maybe a super small reduction to charge time, like -0.3s or something.

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    The problem with changing Widowmaker is just that her skill ceiling is impossibly high compared to most heroes as well as her skill floor being VERY low. What skill level are you balancing your game around? Widowmaker is designed in such a way that there is only a small skill range she will actually be balanced for in the end with her being broken or trash everywhere else.

    Right now a Widow that doesn't miss is nigh unstoppable but how good does the player have to be to make that a reality? I think its pretty fair as is.
    Last edited by Erolian; 2016-05-31 at 08:04 AM.

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    Is anyone else getting sick of these whine threads about heroes being broken/imbalanced/overpowered? I know I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Nope. Junkrat is, and that's pretty clear by his popularity, I don't think I was in one game yesterday without at least one on either side. The guy can be an absolute game changer with that wheelon the attack, and his indirect fire is fantastic suppression for defence. Just a fantastic all rounder.
    Junkrat is so bad. His grenades bounce so you can move out of the way, and his rip tire is not only loud, but squishy, you hear it coming, you shoot that thing down in half a second. Easy.

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    She is NOT OP at all.
    She is supposed to be deathly from long range but seeing this is a TEAM fucking game you have to COUNTER her.

    So a reinhardt will protect your team from all her shots.

    You can flank her with genji, reaper or tracer.
    Jump on her face with Dva or Winston(this one is my favorite .. haven't lost vs a widow in forever as I play winston vs them).
    You can even start trowing grenades at her with junkrat.
    Then there is always counter sniping with Hanzo or widow (usually behind a reinhardt shield).

    Stop trying to one on one a fucking widow, use your team to give you an advantage and take her out.

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    This isn't a whine thread. She is a really good hero. And she needs a tweak because she's a really good hero.

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    She could use bit longer charge time, thats about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesder View Post
    She needs some tweaks. Her acid bomb should probably do less damage or not last as long, her charge rate is super fast and should probably be slower, her ultimate is so useful that most people play her just to give the team wall hack.

    Honestly it's hard to find a reason to not play as her, since she brings so much and can wall an enemy team really hard.
    You've met too many campers and you hate her, we understand <3

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    I've played her for more than 20 hours and I don't agree.
    Sure, if not a single person tries to counter me I can easily get 25+ kill streaks but if they play like a team they'll have someone on me 24/7 making it impossible to get picks, if my team doesn't do anything about it.

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