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    Unhappy Stormwind/org RP is ruined

    7.0 puts Stormwind/Org on the CRZ. This means that you will no longer be able to see everyone from you own server and will be mixed with people who you can't even see their RP addons. Looks like this is the end of hanging out in Cath square :/

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    do we really need 5 threads on this?

    also come the pre-patch ending little to no one will be in stromwind, so this wont be a issue, you will be able to see everyone on your server and you will still see people off realm, but since there will be so few people, they wont be a issue, this will actuallty allow those on non RP servers to also join in on the RP if they wish to! a good thing in my opinion, for now though, just wait till the pre-patch is over with
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    do we really need 5 threads on this?

    also come the pre-patch ending little to no one will be in stromwind, so this wont be a issue, you will be able to see everyone on your server and you will still see people off realm, but since there will be so few people, they wont be a issue, this will actuallty allow those on non RP servers to also join in on the RP if they wish to! a good thing in my opinion, for now though, just wait till the pre-patch is over with
    Stormwind is always packed on WRA/MG, meaning we will ALLWAYS have this problem if it isn't fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smank View Post
    Stormwind is always packed on WRA/MG, meaning we will ALLWAYS have this problem if it isn't fixed.
    mmm not really, but ok, whatever you wanna complain about man, i wont ruin your ranting, enjoy yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    mmm not really, but ok, whatever you wanna complain about man, i wont ruin your ranting, enjoy yourself
    Can you not be so passive aggressive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smank View Post
    Stormwind is always packed on WRA/MG, meaning we will ALLWAYS have this problem if it isn't fixed.
    If it's packed, you shouldn't get CRZ'd. Also you're only getting CRZ'd with other RP servers, so I don't understand the comment regarding RP add-ons, unless they're server only?
    You're not allowed to discuss conspiracy theories on mmo-champion, which makes me wonder what they're trying to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrth View Post
    If it's packed, you shouldn't get CRZ'd. Also you're only getting CRZ'd with other RP servers, so I don't understand the comment regarding RP add-ons, unless they're server only?
    Addons don't work cross server. Also it's splitting us up in to several different phases since it merged the 2 largest RP servers in NA. It's so bad you can log off and back on and see a room full of completely different people

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    uber nerd getting mad about uber nerd stuff! more @ 11

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    uber nerd getting mad about uber nerd stuff! more @ 11
    His playstyle is no less important than yours. There's RPG in MMORPG :P

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    I tried to play on an RP server (Wyrmrest Accord I think) but it really felt just like any regular server except there were tons of pirate guilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    I tried to play on an RP server (Wyrmrest Accord I think) but it really felt just like any regular server except there were tons of pirate guilds.
    Did you got to Cath square or any of the RP hot-spots? Did you try RPing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killyox View Post
    His playstyle is no less important than yours. There's RPG in MMORPG :P
    The point is that isn't an officially supported one.
    If it were functionality provided for that purpose being broken, then fair enough.
    But it isn't, and therefore blizzard are under no obligation to "fix" or sustain that.
    If you think there ought to be better addon support in that case, talk to blizzard about it.
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    Your forgot to include the part where we blame casuals for everything because blizzard is catering to casuals when casuals got jack squat for new content the entire expansion, like new dungeons and scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    The point is that isn't an officially supported one.
    If it were functionality provided for that purpose being broken, then fair enough.
    But it isn't, and therefore blizzard are under no obligation to "fix" or sustain that.
    If you think there ought to be better addon support in that case, talk to blizzard about it.
    It's not like Blizz made RP servers or anything


    Regardless, Blizz seems aware of the situation and is working on it. https://twitter.com/BlizzardCS/statu...21474284535808

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    The point is that isn't an officially supported one.
    If it were functionality provided for that purpose being broken, then fair enough.
    But it isn't, and therefore blizzard are under no obligation to "fix" or sustain that.
    If you think there ought to be better addon support in that case, talk to blizzard about it.
    Actually it is officially supported by Blizz saying it's perfectly valid and equal to other playstyles. It's supported officially by the sole fact there are RP servers. I believe it's even mentioned in eula or TOU or TOS that no playstyle is better than other.

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    Funny, the arc we are currently running is away from Stormwind so I spend my RP evening in Arathi Highland at the moment. Hopefully we won't be back in Stormwind before they fix this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killyox View Post
    Actually it is officially supported by Blizz saying it's perfectly valid and equal to other playstyles. It's supported officially by the sole fact there are RP servers. I believe it's even mentioned in eula or TOU or TOS that no playstyle is better than other.
    I meant the addon, not roleplay in general.
    The addon wasn't working due to another issue, but there is no obligation for blizzard to extend the functionality that the addon is using.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Your forgot to include the part where we blame casuals for everything because blizzard is catering to casuals when casuals got jack squat for new content the entire expansion, like new dungeons and scenarios.
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaerd View Post
    T'is good to see there are still people valiantly putting the "Ass" in assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    I meant the addon, not roleplay in general.
    The addon wasn't working due to another issue, but there is no obligation for blizzard to extend the functionality that the addon is using.
    The addon is not the issue here. They have never worked cross server and that's fine. The issue is that with all the crazy phasing you can only see a very limited amount of people at a time and many of them aren't even from your server. It severely impacts and inhibits your ability to RP. The main reason Stormwind and Orgrimmar are the biggest RP hubs in the game is because they have been mostly free of CRZ and they are an easy place for players to gather.

    I am a WRA player and I've seen a lot from Burning Blade in Stormwind now and they aren't roleplayers. I'd much rather be able to see all the people from my own server who are also roleplayers. But like what was mentioned before, Blizz has acknowledged this issue and I am hoping they will fix it.

    I suppose it is a bit difficult to explain, but it would be roughly equivalent to a raid group going into HFC only to find that their raid has been split into small groups of three and they are phased from everyone else in the group. As you can imagine, that has a major negative effect on your ability to engage in raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelthos View Post
    The addon is not the issue here. They have never worked cross server and that's fine. The issue is that with all the crazy phasing you can only see a very limited amount of people at a time and many of them aren't even from your server. It severely impacts and inhibits your ability to RP. The main reason Stormwind and Orgrimmar are the biggest RP hubs in the game is because they have been mostly free of CRZ and they are an easy place for players to gather.

    I am a WRA player and I've seen a lot from Burning Blade in Stormwind now and they aren't roleplayers. I'd much rather be able to see all the people from my own server who are also roleplayers. But like what was mentioned before, Blizz has acknowledged this issue and I am hoping they will fix it.

    I suppose it is a bit difficult to explain, but it would be roughly equivalent to a raid group going into HFC only to find that their raid has been split into small groups of three and they are phased from everyone else in the group. As you can imagine, that has a major negative effect on your ability to engage in raiding.
    I agree the phasing was a problem.
    What I meant is that the addon being broken because it doesn't work cross realm in addition isn't something there is any obligation to fix, especially since the "official" support from blizzard for roleplay doesn't even extend to that functionality being included by default.
    However the phasing is likely affecting more than just roleplay, and should be fixed regardless and therefore restoring addon functionality as a consequence.
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Your forgot to include the part where we blame casuals for everything because blizzard is catering to casuals when casuals got jack squat for new content the entire expansion, like new dungeons and scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    I agree the phasing was a problem.
    What I meant is that the addon being broken because it doesn't work cross realm in addition isn't something there is any obligation to fix, especially since the "official" support from blizzard for roleplay doesn't even extend to that functionality being included by default.
    However the phasing is likely affecting more than just roleplay, and should be fixed regardless and therefore restoring addon functionality as a consequence.
    Ahh, I see what you mean. I think... Either way, it is definitely something that is harming more than just RP and that should be addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    I meant the addon, not roleplay in general.
    The addon wasn't working due to another issue, but there is no obligation for blizzard to extend the functionality that the addon is using.
    Ah, ok then. I agree with that.

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