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Not necessarily even wrong datamining, just bad display.Just saying datamined patch changes have been wrong before.
http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=137027/retribution-paladin
If you look under "effect 1" TV and DS are actually listed (and have been pretty much since the aura was modified. It's the same issue what happend the last time we got the aura added. When they finally removed GBOM, TV and DS weren't shown too, unless you checked the aura individually.
Always look at the aura itself, neiter the overview on mmo-champ nor on wowhead shows the entire auras afaik.
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2017-06-12, 12:46 AM #3801Deleted
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2017-06-12, 01:23 AM #3802DeletedBefore you get too excited this is compensation for the strength trait nerf and the tier 19 nerf. Going into the PTR/new patch your net damage should be the same, if not lower.
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2017-06-12, 02:07 AM #3803The Lightbringer
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I actually hope I'm wrong about it, 'cause it seemed pretty uncalled for to nerf TV/DS outright without compensation. Originally Posted by Socce
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2017-06-12, 09:03 AM #3804Deleted
Why don't i see the DH nerf on the patch notes? Or was it a hotfix/silent nerf some time ago?
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2017-06-12, 09:46 AM #3805Epic!
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Check the patch notes on wowhead or blizz site,the ones posted here on the front page are missing a lot of changes. Originally Posted by stelmat
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2017-06-12, 02:24 PM #3806Deleted
Rets are performing so well, they have the greatest burst cd in game that synergizes perfectly with their leggos and they have such nice utility.
Why would someone think that a nerf was uncalled for ?
the irony.
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2017-06-12, 05:17 PM #3807DeletedI commend on your ability to write that with a straight face or at least write it with out huge abounts of *cough* or lol Originally Posted by Stroggylos
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2017-06-12, 06:50 PM #3808DeletedBah i guess it is only the answer i would expect from a q&a of the devs or from a blue post. Originally Posted by CptKnusper
and here it goes
trolololololol
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2017-06-13, 07:16 AM #3809Deleted
Hey boys, what's up? I'm just gonna leave this here
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/...499&height=506
On a more serious note, it might not be 100% accurate and still is too early to tell but, things are looking pretty shit.
Also, does the ring sucks d after all? I mean the feedback isn't great and icy veins's updated guide has it 6th or something on the leggo priority list. Cloak + belt ftw?Last edited by mmocdc4d0d4c33; 2017-06-13 at 07:38 AM.
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2017-06-13, 07:42 AM #3810Stood in the Fire
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I mean obviously you have to take any sims with a grain of salt, but you can still get a general feel for current class balance. Saying that, fuck me, were at the bottom again on single target Originally Posted by stelmat
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Solsacra's highest sim I've seen recently put Liadrins and belt top, with 2p t19 and 4p t20. To quote Solsacra: " You can basically use any combination of Liadrin's, Chain and Whsipers and not notice any practical difference.. "
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2017-06-13, 07:50 AM #3811Banned
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What a surprise. Originally Posted by Nition
were at the bottom again on single target
10 bucks say there will be no buffs to Retribution for at least a month into ToS.
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2017-06-13, 07:53 AM #3812DeletedI got belt as my last ret leggo so i was pretty used to playing with the ring and the extra HP, felt really clunky when i switched to cloak + belt. Going back to the ring might actually make the playstyle a little bit more enjoyable. I was referring to the highlord one though and the Divine Purpose talent. That's way shittier as it seems atm. Originally Posted by Nition
I mean obviously you have to take any sims with a grain of salt, but you can still get a general feel for current class balance. Saying that, fuck me, were at the bottom again on single target
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Solsacra's highest sim I've seen recently put Liadrins and belt top, with 2p t19 and 4p t20. To quote Solsacra: " You can basically use any combination of Liadrin's, Chain and Whsipers and not notice any practical difference.. "
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2017-06-13, 07:58 AM #3813Deletedpretty close to what Sol simmed so far. Considering that ret is one of the best maintained APLs... ToS will be awesome! Originally Posted by stelmat
our legendary parses will be gray warrior passes!Last edited by mmocd051bddac7; 2017-06-13 at 08:01 AM.
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2017-06-13, 09:01 AM #3814The Lightbringer
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Nah the Highlord ring is pretty decent. I think I'll probably use it when I get it just because I want Divine Purpose during Crusade, and even 8 stacks of Crusade after 2 GCDs would be really nice. Also makes Justicar's Vengeance not a terrible HP sink if you use it mainly with DP procs, and some mobs being stunnable helps with that. Originally Posted by stelmat
Having said that, I looked at that sim.. fuck me. Even being optimistic, we're still close to the bottom, and I could've told you Arms could get ridiculous just looking at the changes they did to fucking Execution. It's INSANE how much they buffed it. 30% returned rage if it >>DOESN'T<< KILL THEM? How does that make any sense?!
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2017-06-13, 09:05 AM #3815Banned
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Once again, you repeat the same mistake I've spoke before. Originally Posted by Reith
You are applying logic to bzzd decisions.
Don't.
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2017-06-13, 10:04 AM #3816Stood in the Fire
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I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll get a tweak in the tuning pass coming through before ToS. Whats the bet its a nerf though, fuck it, kick 'em whilst they're down.
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2017-06-13, 10:39 AM #3817DeletedI`ll put my money on neither they will do nothing or some BS that will net in a zerosum game... Originally Posted by Nition
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2017-06-13, 11:06 AM #3818The Lightbringer
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My bet is they'll do nothing. Maybe a blue post will say some variation of "Retribution is in a good place right now overall. We will adjust things where we think they need to be adjusted if we think they need to be adjusted when we think is a good time for it to be adjusted and the adjustment makes sense in a justifiable way for adjusting." I doubt we'll even get that, though. Originally Posted by Nition
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2017-06-13, 01:04 PM #3819Pandaren Monk
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A month? More like a year. Originally Posted by Storm the Sorrow
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2017-06-13, 01:23 PM #3820Deleted
Lewl just went through the 95% of 7.0-7.1 in warcraftlogs (guarm/ursoc/nythendra) and then on whatever can be regarded as close to st in nighthold (7.2+). The downgrade is real , the nerfs keep coming and I cannot believe there are people here and there popping saying that everything is fine and every change justifiable.
