Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[PACOX]

The e-mail outlined a plan to attack Sanders on his religion (the e-mail is actually up on Wiki leaks if you want to read it), which is dispicable. You should read the "taco bowl" e-mail that insults the whole latino base as well.

As for approval, we don't know what he would do- but we know what Hillary did.

I still will take a person who takes bad over a person that actually has a well established record of doing bad things. People's actions should count. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but your words will never hurt me.

Did they every attack Sanders because of his religion, wasn't it like one guy who actually said that and it was deemed a mistake?

Taco bowl as in reference to the taco bowl stunt that Trump pulled?

[DeadmanWalking]

The e-mail outlined a plan to attack Sanders on his religion (the e-mail is actually up on Wiki leaks if you want to read it), which is dispicable. You should read the "taco bowl" e-mail that insults the whole latino base as well.

As for approval, we don't know what he would do- but we know what Hillary did.

I still will take a person who takes bad over a person that actually has a well established record of doing bad things. People's actions should count. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but your words will never hurt me.

Hillary was not in that email about how to defame Sanders, that was Schultz to members of the DNC and they were spitballing ideals, bad ideals but nothing illegal. They also never acted on the spitballing, rather they just talked about doing it, which isn't illegal. Schultz ended up eating that one. You are attributing it to hillary because it sounds good and fits your political narrative you made up in your head. If every boss who ever hired someone who did something bad was punished for it there wouldn't be any bosses.

If you think the RNC wasn't sending similar emails to Rubio and Cruz to start saying buzzwords about Trump like, "Con-man" or "Entertainer" then you are being willfully blind. They just didn't get caught.

Also people in power like the president are able to make military actions against other countries without needing congressional approval, going to actual war requires more resources and needs congressional approval. If it was illegal to do that she would be in prison right now, because republicans would stop at nothing to put her head on a platter.

[satimy]

Actually his lawyers are required to report any judge they believe has shown bias. And:

"Just three weeks before Donald Trump triggered a national firestorm over his claims that U.S. Judge Gonzalo Curiel was biased against him because of his Mexican heritage, his lead lawyer in the Trump University case praised Curiel for a “sound decision” and said he had no plans to file a motion for him to be recused.

“The judge is doing his job,” said Daniel Petrocelli, shaking his head, when asked if planned to seek Curiel’s recusal. “We’re not seeking to recuse the judge.”

The judge was part of the la raza

[zenkai]

Hillary was not in that email about how to defame Sanders, that was Schultz to members of the DNC and they were spitballing ideals, bad ideals but nothing illegal. They also never acted on the spitballing, rather they just talked about doing it, which isn't illegal. Schultz ended up eating that one. You are attributing it to hillary because it sounds good and fits your political narrative you made up in your head. If every boss who ever hired someone who did something bad was punished for it there wouldn't be any bosses.

If you think the RNC wasn't sending similar emails to Rubio and Cruz to start saying buzzwords about Trump like, "Con-man" or "Entertainer" then you are being willfully blind. They just didn't get caught.

Also people in power like the president are able to make military actions against other countries without needing congressional approval, going to actual war requires more resources and needs congressional approval. If it was illegal to do that she would be in prison right now, because republicans would stop at nothing to put her head on a platter.

So 2 wrongs make a right? I would love to see the RNC emails as well.

[-Nurot]

Trump may put his foot in his mouth (and often) but he has demonstrated that he works well with people, through all his companies and his deals. Also, people are worried he might recklessly say the wrong thing at the wrong time, but his ability to survive in a cut throat business world and make big deals (with banks, etc) shows that he knows how to keep it civil at the right time.

Uh, his 3,500 lawsuits (including federal lawsuits involving racial discrimination that he settled) would demonstrate that he does not work well with people. Keeping it civil at the right time? Like when he reneges on business deals and doesn't pay people who work for him, or when he swindles money out of people through a fake "college" where he had fast food workers "teach" business.

I guess actions do speak louder than words, and his con-man antics, bad business execution (which led to almost a billion in personal debt) and snide/petty attitude certainly compliment his braggadocio, egotistical, maniacal lies that he spins.

[BrerBear]

The judge was part of the la raza

Wrong again, but I'm sure you're used to it by now.
http://www.snopes.com/judge-curiel-la-raza-kkk/

[PACOX]

I think Trumps campaign has infiltrated the forum, only way the same debunked arguments keep popping up.

[Moralgy]

I think Trumps campaign has infiltrated the forum, only way the same debunked arguments keep popping up.

Its just the usual posters doing their thing, nothing special.

[Garnier Fructis]

The judge was part of the la raza

These are the kind of things that pretty much prove people don't do even basic research for themselves. There's two different La Raza's. One is a latino lawyer association. The other is the group you all have your panties in a twist over. They aren't the same.

Jesus.

[Noxx79]

The judge was part of the la raza

No he wasn't. I've told you this many times before. That is a lie, you sheep.

[DeadmanWalking]

So 2 wrongs make a right? I would love to see the RNC emails as well.

I didn't say anything about 2 wrongs making a right now did I, you don't like what I said so you are trying to dismiss it. I said they were bad ideals which were never acted on, nothing illegal about that. It looks bad, is bad but that doesn't mean that Hillary was the one making the emails and firing them off. Had she been involved the buck wouldn't of stopped at Schultz.

I'm sorry that I say facts and don't just agree with made up shit.

[Shalcker]

Is it common place in your country to accuse judges of bias and wrong-doing by trying to call out your own (Trump) bias on their ethnic heritage even if they were born in said country?

Quoting:
Статья 16. Основания для отвода судьи
""1. Мировой судья, а также судья не может рассматривать дело и подлежит отводу, если он:
""1) при предыдущем рассмотрении данного дела участвовал в нем в качестве прокурора, секретаря судебного заседания, представителя, свидетеля, эксперта, специалиста, переводчика;
""2) является родственником или свойственником кого-либо из лиц, участвующих в деле, либо их представителей;
""3) лично, прямо или косвенно заинтересован в исходе дела либо имеются иные обстоятельства, вызывающие сомнение в его объективности и беспристрастности.

"16. Reasons for judge withdrawal:
...
1) If he was involved in same case previously as prosecutor, secretary, legal representative, witness, expert, specialist, or translator.
2) if he was relative or cousin-in-law for any of those involved in case or their representatives
3) if he is personally directly or indirectly interested in result of court case or there are other considerations that allow to question his objectivity and impartiality"

I would assume Trump argument falls under 3.

Wasn't the Orlando shooter homosexual?

It wasn't proven one way or another. But then being straight doesn't stop you from shooting people, so it's irrelevant.

I guess even though he was clearly mentally disturbed we should cast the same net over a federal judge.

"Clearly"? That's debatable. I'd go with "possibly".

[Pangean]

The judge was part of the la raza

Uh sparky, the La Raza that he belonged to was a Law Group. Not the other "La Raza". This tired and discredited claim of yours should embarrass you for even raising it. But I doubt it.

"What they are attempting to do is associate Curiel with the National Council of La Raza, the radical left-wing and pro-illegal-immigration group that has gained significant notoriety in the news over the years as a group that is both anti-American and open to fomenting violent pro-immigration protests.

Curiel, however, has no affiliation with this group whatsoever. He is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California - aka the Latino Bar Association of California. They have absolutely no affiliation with National Council of La Raza. As far as I can tell, they appear to be a pretty garden variety special interest lawyers association. Every state has these chapters for Hispanic lawyers, black lawyers, women lawyers, Mormon lawyers, Christian lawyers, Jewish lawyers - you name it, there is a lawyer association for it in every state. They have meetings, everyone comes and eat lunch together, and they serve pretty much exclusively the function of networking, which is the lifeblood of legal business generation.

Maybe you find the existence of these groups distasteful and tacky, but that's a separate point. The point is, no, Judge Curiel is not a member of or affiliated with the radical leftwing group that conservatives have come to know and hate, in spite of the surface level similarity of name."

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/...uriel-la-raza/

[DeadmanWalking]

The judge was part of the la raza

Allow me to educate you;

Curiel served with Narcotics Enforcement, he handled a case of two members of the Arellano Felix Cartel of Tijuana who were arrested in California. He wanted them extradited to Mexico and the cartel leaders used their connections to threaten his life, so he went into protective custody while Curiel argued to have them extradited to get Mexico and US in a position where they would work more closely together to attack the Cartels.
He succeeded and was appointed by Govenor Schwartzenegger (Republican) to the San Diego Superior Court and then was appointed by Obama to the Federal bench.

There is this thing called google, try it, if you are still confused then try googling 'google'.

[Noxx79]

Uh sparky, the La Raza that he belonged to was a Law Group. Not the other "La Raza". This tired and discredited claim of yours should embarrass you for even raising it. But I doubt it.

"What they are attempting to do is associate Curiel with the National Council of La Raza, the radical left-wing and pro-illegal-immigration group that has gained significant notoriety in the news over the years as a group that is both anti-American and open to fomenting violent pro-immigration protests.

Curiel, however, has no affiliation with this group whatsoever. He is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California - aka the Latino Bar Association of California. They have absolutely no affiliation with National Council of La Raza. As far as I can tell, they appear to be a pretty garden variety special interest lawyers association. Every state has these chapters for Hispanic lawyers, black lawyers, women lawyers, Mormon lawyers, Christian lawyers, Jewish lawyers - you name it, there is a lawyer association for it in every state. They have meetings, everyone comes and eat lunch together, and they serve pretty much exclusively the function of networking, which is the lifeblood of legal business generation.

Maybe you find the existence of these groups distasteful and tacky, but that's a separate point. The point is, no, Judge Curiel is not a member of or affiliated with the radical leftwing group that conservatives have come to know and hate, in spite of the surface level similarity of name."

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/...uriel-la-raza/

As I've said before, it's like calling Cam Newton a Black Panther because he plays for the Carolina Panthers.
Or saying that I play for LA Ram's football team because my High School basketball team was called the Rams.

[DeadmanWalking]

Quoting:
Статья 16. Основания для отвода судьи
""1. Мировой судья, а также судья не может рассматривать дело и подлежит отводу, если он:
""1) при предыдущем рассмотрении данного дела участвовал в нем в качестве прокурора, секретаря судебного заседания, представителя, свидетеля, эксперта, специалиста, переводчика;
""2) является родственником или свойственником кого-либо из лиц, участвующих в деле, либо их представителей;
""3) лично, прямо или косвенно заинтересован в исходе дела либо имеются иные обстоятельства, вызывающие сомнение в его объективности и беспристрастности.

"16. Reasons for judge withdrawal:
...
1) If he was involved in same case previously as prosecutor, secretary, legal representative, witness, expert, specialist, or translator.
2) if he was relative or cousin-in-law for any of those involved in case or their representatives
3) if he is personally directly or indirectly interested in result of court case or there are other considerations that allow to question his objectivity and impartiality"

I would assume Trump argument falls under 3.

It wasn't proven one way or another. But then being straight doesn't stop you from shooting people, so it's irrelevant.

"Clearly"? That's debatable. I'd go with "possibly".

And yet they still didn't file any motions, while being legally required to if they felt impatiality.... Odd... don't you think?

[satimy]

Uh sparky, the La Raza that he belonged to was a Law Group. Not the other "La Raza". This tired and discredited claim of yours should embarrass you for even raising it. But I doubt it.

"What they are attempting to do is associate Curiel with the National Council of La Raza, the radical left-wing and pro-illegal-immigration group that has gained significant notoriety in the news over the years as a group that is both anti-American and open to fomenting violent pro-immigration protests.

Curiel, however, has no affiliation with this group whatsoever. He is a member of La Raza Lawyers of California - aka the Latino Bar Association of California. They have absolutely no affiliation with National Council of La Raza. As far as I can tell, they appear to be a pretty garden variety special interest lawyers association. Every state has these chapters for Hispanic lawyers, black lawyers, women lawyers, Mormon lawyers, Christian lawyers, Jewish lawyers - you name it, there is a lawyer association for it in every state. They have meetings, everyone comes and eat lunch together, and they serve pretty much exclusively the function of networking, which is the lifeblood of legal business generation.

Maybe you find the existence of these groups distasteful and tacky, but that's a separate point. The point is, no, Judge Curiel is not a member of or affiliated with the radical leftwing group that conservatives have come to know and hate, in spite of the surface level similarity of name."

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/...uriel-la-raza/

it's still a Hispanic pride group, exclusionary of other people based on race that could potentially bias him. I never said it was the radical group either, so drop your assumptions

[Pangean]

As I've said before, it's like calling Cam Newton a Black Panther because he plays for the Carolina Panthers.
Or saying that I play for LA Ram's football team because my High School basketball team was called the Rams.

If I was generous I would say these folks who continue to make this claim are just lazy. But this has been shown to be wrong so often that it's clear that those who continue to use it clearly do not care what they claim or the veracity of it.

[Shalcker]

And yet they still didn't file any motions, while being legally required to if they felt impatiality.... Odd... don't you think?

Trump thought judge had bias, his lawyers knew better then bring it up.

Wouldn't be the first case of Trump publicly disagreeing with those under his employ yet still following their advice.

[Garnier Fructis]

it's still a Hispanic pride group, exclusionary of other people based on race that could potentially bias him. I never said it was the radical group either, so drop your assumptions

See, there were two possibilities. Either you thought they were the same so you brought it up, or you knew they were different and were hoping people would think he was part of the radical group.

Because being a part of the lawyer association, and there ones for like every race, is mundane. The only reason anyone has ever mentioned is to confuse people into thinking he's part of the radical group.

This dishonest, feigned ignorance is ridiculous.