Mythic + Dungeons a Joke?!?

[Jacpierre]

I was all excited for these. I ran a fair amount last week, enjoyed them all. Come to find out I am stuck with my 1 keystone and it is a higher level. This severely limits the number of dungeons that will be able to be run this week, and that number will only get smaller. They like to claim they modeled this after D3 but there are surprisingly few similarities.

If this is supposed to be similar to a raid, in a raid you get a fresh instance every week. My keystone should be like my raid instance, and it should be fresh each week. I should have to fight my way up the ranks, not be kept out of them because I've beaten it once. It'd be like saying that because you are doing mythic Emerald Nightmare you are not allowed to do normal or heroic. Why do they think this is a good idea? And please, don't give me some gear based reason. having your keystone start at 2 every week wouldn't give that much more loot that it matters. My main issue is what will happen 5 or 10 weeks from now, when everyones keystones are upgraded and people are getting stuck into one mythic+ a week because they can't beat it and there is no real reason to run regular mythics. It was great the first week, but it seems like it's going to run out of steam quickly.

[Ilir]

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pls educate yourself before whining mindlessly

everything you wrote is completely false.

[Monoliith]

oh my god hahahah

[Deleted]

I'm trying, from your confusing and disjointed rant, to figure out what your problem is. That your key resets every week? Just crush the timer and you're at +5, doesn't even take 15 minutes. And what prevents you from joining the groups of other people? One of the more popular setups this week was for high-geared groups to get people with +2 keys and carry them through, an arrangement that helped everyone (new people got their key boosted and a guaranteed 3 chests of loot, premade groups could spam dungeons over and over farming AP and the chance for legendaries).

[Taeldorian]

There's really nothing to say. Your post is riddled with completely wrong information. Not really sure how to answer.. Not only that but you seem to be addressing a few different things at the same time so maybe restate or edit your post?

[orgonutil]

someone tryed to delete the keystone from order hall chest and got a new +2 in a regular mythic?

[Ghostile]

Seems like someone didn't know that:

Your key resets weekly
You don't get locked out of Mythic+ dungeons
You can join other players keystone run

[ceall]

What OP is complaining about is, that one day everyone will start with lvl 5 keystones or higher due to the weekly chest keys, while he wants to start on lvl 2 for more chests in total and thus more chances for titanforged gear and legendaries.

[Marston]

If this is supposed to be similar to a raid, in a raid you get a fresh instance every week. My keystone should be like my raid instance, and it should be fresh each week. I should have to fight my way up the ranks, not be kept out of them because I've beaten it once. It'd be like saying that because you are doing mythic Emerald Nightmare you are not allowed to do normal or heroic.

Actually, to use your Mythic raid comparison, if you want to raid Mythic raids, you need to clear LFR, Normal and Heroic first in order to access them. That's basically what you want for Mythic+ Dungeons. You want to clear Mythic first in order to access Mythic+2 and then climb up, instead of continueing where you left off the week before.

[lolpve]

What OP is complaining about is, that one day everyone will start with lvl 5 keystones or higher due to the weekly chest keys, while he wants to start on lvl 2 for more chests in total and thus more chances for titanforged gear and legendaries.

This, and he's right. It's much harder to join a pug if you have a +5 key compared to a +2. In D3 you can join any difficulty you like so long as the leader has cleared 1 level beneath. This is how it should be in WoW.

I get my keystone, do a 2+ run, get a 5+ key, boost groups don't wanna join because they're not as good as they think they are... so I end up letting it rot in my bags until the reset. Cool.

[Matchu]

What OP is complaining about is, that one day everyone will start with lvl 5 keystones or higher due to the weekly chest keys, while he wants to start on lvl 2 for more chests in total and thus more chances for titanforged gear and legendaries.

Eventually it should reset, because you'll get a key whose time you can't complete.

[Jacpierre]

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pls educate yourself before whining mindlessly

everything you wrote is completely false.

Except it isnt? I ran a mythic, I didn't get a key. The only key I have is the one from my chest, and it starts at +4.

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I'm trying, from your confusing and disjointed rant, to figure out what your problem is. That your key resets every week? Just crush the timer and you're at +5, doesn't even take 15 minutes. And what prevents you from joining the groups of other people? One of the more popular setups this week was for high-geared groups to get people with +2 keys and carry them through, an arrangement that helped everyone (new people got their key boosted and a guaranteed 3 chests of loot, premade groups could spam dungeons over and over farming AP and the chance for legendaries).

If you actually read my post, you'd understand that the +2 keys will quickly dry up if this stays the way it is. As you completely higher and higher keystones, you are locked into getting only a higher keystone to start each week. I will not get a +2 ever again on either of my toons. I will quickly reach a cap on difficulty, until my gear catches up, which means I can only run 1 maybe 2 mythic+ a week without requiring dragging others along.

[kamuimac]

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pls educate yourself before whining mindlessly

everything you wrote is completely false.

what exackly is false that he written ? the fact that you only have 1 keystone and that it upgrades to raondomhigher dungeon and you cant go back dificulties with your own keystoneso nly have to use others for it ? he is not wrong that this systems sucks for a lot of players who have exackly 0 chance to kill anything more then mythic 4+ without EM HC gear - nobody will join random dudes +6 or + 7 especially if he will be around 850 itlv - this system is fundamentaly flawed and aimed solely at mythic raiders to gear up faster

[VladimirM]

You can do mythic+ no matter if you have key or not. One person out of 5 has to put the key in the "box" to start it. You can do (for example) Dark Thicket on all difficulties, and get loot for all.
if your problem is that you cannot put key inside, just find another player who can. Problem solved

[Jacpierre]

Seems like someone didn't know that:

Your key resets weekly
You don't get locked out of Mythic+ dungeons
You can join other players keystone run

Your key does no tget "reset" each week.

I never said you get locked out

I know you can join others. You clearly can't see the problem. That isn't my fault.

Eventually, everyone will have higher keystones. They will start each week not at +2, but +5,6,7,8,9. they will run out of lower dungeons to run and be locked into only a few depending on their gear/skill. The pool of people to pug and the amount of dungeons run will very rapidly fall off.

[MkGuyver]

Your key does no tget "reset" each week.

I never said you get locked out

I know you can join others. You clearly can't see the problem. That isn't my fault.

Eventually, everyone will have higher keystones. They will start each week not at +2, but +5,6,7,8,9. they will run out of lower dungeons to run and be locked into only a few depending on their gear/skill. The pool of people to pug and the amount of dungeons run will very rapidly fall off.

u know ppl can delete their keystone to get a new one next week right?

[kamuimac]

Your key resets weekly

it resets to 70 % value of previous weeks best run which mean it wont reset to +2 unless he only did +3 -_-

[Hctaz]

Eventually it should reset, because you'll get a key whose time you can't complete.

No it doesn't reset. When you can't complete it and you're done you get a new keystone the next week which is a couple levels lower. For example: Last week my guild group cleared Mythic 8 Maw of Souls so this week I received a Mythic 6 keystone. You can't go back down to 2 unless you literally don't run Mythic plus for an entire week.

[Jacpierre]

u know ppl can delete their keystone to get a new one next week right?

So then you don't get what's in your chest. Yea, that sounds like a great alternative. As if they can't just make it so the key starts at +2 again. As if this would somehow be a horrible idea.

[Puri]

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pls educate yourself before whining mindlessly

everything you wrote is completely false.

He is absolutely right with everything he wrote. Your keystone will be 3 level lower than your highest keystone in the previous lockout, that means if you cleared m+8 you will get a m+5 stone next week, that means you will lose 4 levels of possible loot.
It can be mitigated by joining other people's runs, but if you are in a fixed group this will cut down your loot possibilities quite a bunch if everyone in your group has such a high keystone.
But as others wrote perhaps it's possible to destroy your keystone, do a normal mythic and get a m+2 stone.