Putin says Russia ready to fully restore ties with U.S.

[Daten-shi]

Peace in our time - Chamberlain

So you think Russia will not continue the war in Ukraine if US embrace isolationism?

No, because then Government in Ukraine will be orphaned and Grand Mother Russia will take over and dress them down like children. Peace will be restored.

[xChurch]

The US is probably going to be a global superpower regardless of whether it gets NATO members to pony up some more cash. Frankly, the US has Europe over a barrel, since their choice in finding someone to follow is a non-choice: Germany won't do it, Russia is too weak to do it, and China's too far away to do it.

Follow? I'm confused, do you think that the rest of the West just follows the US around? In the end Trump is going to learn that it's not so easy to just wall yourselves off from the world, in fact the last time the US tried, WW2 happened and in the aftermath the US learned it needed to step in. It's enourmously sad to see such an important lesson be forgotten.

[Keeponrage]

I highly doubt that Trump's presidency will change much in current US-Russia relations. If he is really going to to what he promised, i.e. migrating industry back from China, it will actually hurt Russian economy even more. Since the less industry there will be in China - the less hydrocarbons they will buy from Russia, even if Power of Siberia would start working full power.

Also, as far as international US politics is concerned - it doesn't really matters which puppet of US oligarchy sits in a White house. They may have different interests inside US, but outside of US its an old anglo-saxon policy - let the world burn around you and we will sit across they big pond and count money we earn from it.

So no, Trump will not make any difference. Putin is just being polite. He would say the same bla-bla if Hillary would have won.

[ArguesWithStrangers]

If only that was true. Seems to me more like the US wants to maintain it's super power status while putting in 0 of the effort to actually make that true. America has spent the last 71 years building itself up as a global leader and it takes more than just one election to flush that down the toliet. But hey, if the US wants to pull out of the ME and Africa and stop trying to push themselves on everyone, people probably wouldn't complain. More likely though that the Government will continue to stick it's nose everywhere while constantly complaining about dead weight allies.

I never claimed it was happening now, or that you'd see a drastic policy change. I'm saying that 15 years of low-level warfare has altered public sentiment towards interventionism in the United States and that sentiment is likely to grow. It is a contributing factor to the paradigm shift represented by Trump in the Republican Party.

[Mafic]

Peace in our time - Chamberlain

So you think Russia will not continue the war in Ukraine if US embrace isolationism?

Russia isn't going to continue war in Ukraine. They have won their main objective ( Crimea). They will oppose Neo nazi aggression but beyond that they are taking a hold the ground approach.

[Nadiru]

Follow? I'm confused, do you think that the rest of the West just follows the US around? In the end Trump is going to learn that it's not so easy to just wall yourselves off from the world, in fact the last time the US tried, WW2 happened and in the aftermath the US learned it needed to step in. It's enourmously sad to see such an important lesson be forgotten.

So, because Europeans are complete savages who can't be trusted with a set of steak knives, the US has to spend billions of dollars to occupy Europe in perpetuity, in order to make sure they don't murk each other over which side of the plate the salad fork goes on?

If true, that says a lot more about Europeans than it does about Americans.

Also, yes: Europe does follow the US around. The only significant breaks between the US-Europe bloc in the post-Cold War era was over the invasion of Iraq, and even then that was a Franco-German resistance, not a pan-European resistance.

infracted - trolling

[Sliske]

The people behind trump are the same neocon chicken hawks. Nothing will come of this.


Pence will run foreign policy and republicans love the war machine.

Do they though? Most republicians i've talked to love Russia and respect Putin. In my experience its the left that thinks Russia is this cyberhacking god trying to fuck over America.

[Ehrenpanzer]

The least surprising news of the past 24 hours.

So, how long before Russia takes back another country of the former USSR while the US does nothing but walk away from NATO?

Like... the last 2 times under Democrats?

[ArguesWithStrangers]

Fixed for you there.

The rest of the world was fine without 'hall monitor' and will be better without it, should it ever happen.

Europe's desperate cry for help in reaction to Russia re-asserting itself blows that idea out of the water. You guys are like flock of bleating sheep. You hate the big scary sheep dog, until the wolf comes around.

[xChurch]

I never claimed it was happening now, or that you'd see a drastic policy change. I'm saying that 15 years of low-level warfare has altered public sentiment towards interventionism in the United States and that sentiment is likely to grow. It is a contributing factor to the paradigm shift represented by Trump in the Republican Party.

Doesn't really help either than a huge portion of the electorate has been shown now to have 0 interest in the facts of a situation and only care about who frames it right and say's they have the best solutions.

So, because Europeans are complete savages who can't be trusted with a set of steak knives, the US has to spend billions of dollars to occupy Europe in perpetuity, in order to make sure they don't murk each other over which side of the plate the salad fork goes on?

If true, that says a lot more about Europeans than it does about Americans.

Also, yes: Europe does follow the US around. The only significant breaks between the US-Europe bloc in the post-Cold War era was over the invasion of Iraq, and even then that was a Franco-German resistance, not a pan-European resistance.

Wait...how'd you get that out of what I said?
Also agreeing =/= following.

[Daten-shi]

Follow? I'm confused, do you think that the rest of the West just follows the US around? In the end Trump is going to learn that it's not so easy to just wall yourselves off from the world, in fact the last time the US tried, WW2 happened and in the aftermath the US learned it needed to step in. It's enourmously sad to see such an important lesson be forgotten.

No, WW2 didn't happen because of US isolationism. I know they teach that in American schools but they also teach that America is the center of the world (Even show it on their school maps with North/South America in the middle while Eurasia on both sides...funny).

[Vash The Stampede]

Probably the only good thing that came out of this election. Why we hate Russia again?

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So, because Europeans are complete savages who can't be trusted with a set of steak knives, the US has to spend billions of dollars to occupy Europe in perpetuity, in order to make sure they don't murk each other over which side of the plate the salad fork goes on?

Don't forget who spawned you. Without Europe, America would be nothing more than occupied territory of the Aztec Empire.

[Tijuana]

Probably the only good thing that came out of this election. Why we hate Russia again?

Because we were in a decades long cold war with a nation that used to sit where Russia does.

[Daten-shi]

Europe's desperate cry for help in reaction to Russia re-asserting itself blows that idea out of the water. You guys are like flock of bleating sheep. You hate the big scary sheep dog, until the wolf comes around.

Yeah, well, the dog has begotten the wolf.

[Deleted]

Now we just need russia to stop invading countries and breaking international laws and conventions

[Daten-shi]

Now we just need russia to stop invading countries and breaking international laws and conventions

Yeah hopefully with Trump, US will stop doing same thing and giving bad examples.

[zorkuus]

Yeah hopefully with Trump, US will stop doing same thing and giving bad examples.

I don't think Russia needs examples. they were doing just fine before the US.

[PC2]

And I doubt the republican base has warmed up to Russia yet. That socialism boogieman yo.

That was the USSR, Russia isn't that big on socialistic philosophy. Russia is just a distraction to bigger issues like mass migration.

[Daten-shi]

I don't think Russia needs examples. they were doing just fine before the US.

Russia isn't the only country to be given bad example to. Even though they were doing fine before the US. That's before 18th century, I assume.

I am talking about countries like China who are warmongering in their seas. The Saudi Arabia, with their Yemen situation. Iran, with their own agenda. Turkey and their Kurdish problem. etc etc.