Merkel With Obama: Internet ‘Disruptive’ Force that Has to Be Contained

[veehro]

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...ruptive-force/

The most disturbing thing about this is that only breitbart and a few german newspapers reported on it while the rest of the media is silent, as it is not something the public would be interested in hearing.

My biggest shock is that even now after the more and more authoritarian left keeps losing they do not for a second question if they themselves did something wrong. Instead they double down on authorianism and think that in order to remain into office they need to silence the people and control the flow of information even more.
This lack of change will give rise to more and more authoritarian right wing goverments that even I will be uncomfortable with. And its only because the left refuses to admit that maybe they made a few mistakes and its because of them that they are losing elections.

Instead they are using racism and islamophobia as shields in order to deflect any criticism for any bad policy they are responsible of so that the people would never punish them at the voting booth.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...onting-mark-z/

[Deleted]

Shut up grandma. Goodbye Obummer.

[Cerilis]

So that's why my news website suddenly focused on the Trumprotests again...

[May90]

I don't mind the topic, but... Did you really have to link Breitbart's article?

[Independent voter]

I think Merkel and Obama were talking about fake news on Facebook.

[veehro]

who do you allow to decide what news is fake and what isn't?
Who should have so much power and not abuse it?

[primalmatter]

I bet they got the hacker known as 4 chan this time... and his little bro 8chan those two people will never hurt anyone ever again.

[veehro]

I don't mind the topic, but... Did you really have to link Breitbart's article?

Most other sites are focused with the riots in US. As i said german newspapers and breitbart is one of the few who reported it

[Dezerte]

Not only has it been covered by numerous sources, it has been (as usual) been taken completely out of context by sensationalist media such as Breitbart.

Now that is disturbing.

[veehro]

Not only has it been covered by numerous sources, it has been (as usual) been taken completely out of context by sensationalist media such as Breitbart.

Now that is disturbing.

please show me a source that makes it controling the internet ok and non sensationalized

[Deleted]

Lol Brietbart. What a source.

[Dezerte]

please show me a source that makes it controling the internet ok and non sensationalized

Google "obama and merkel press tour", you'll find numerous sources reporting on the meeting.

[veehro]

An example: If you are an idiotic website that claims Merkel was member of some communist group, you should be closed down.

Who should close that website down? The goverment? You sure they won't abuse that power? What if the website is located outside of the goverment jurisdiction?
Should they firewall the domain for the protection of the people like china does?

So to summarize the article in an unbiased way:
-Fake news is a real problem.

I agree. But how do you decide what is fake and what is not? What institution should have that power?

-American alt-right are trying to interfere in European politics.

How do you differentiate between american alt-right and European alt right?
Why do you think European leftists did not also try to influence the elections in america?

-The internet should have to follow the same laws as other media.

Do the people want this? Or just the ruling elites?

[Aggrophobic]

who do you allow to decide what news is fake and what isn't?
Who should have so much power and not abuse it?

What? Who should decide whats lies and whats not?
What kind of question is this?

[RickJamesLich]

Fact-checkers.
An example: If you are an idiotic website that claims Merkel was member of some communist group, you should be closed down.

So to summarize the article in an unbiased way:
-Fake news is a real problem.
-American alt-right are trying to interfere in European politics.
-The internet should have to follow the same laws as other media.

Seems perfectly fine.

I think the problem is deciding what constitutes "fake news" is the problem here. For example, should we shut down comedians that do the news, like that John Oliver show? lol. Especially since the news frequently reports on opinionated subjects, it seems like this thing would be impossible to actually pull off, without censoring legitimate news sources as well.

[veehro]

What? Who should decide whats lies and whats not?
What kind of question is this?

A very valid question. Who gets to play the lie detector?

Take trump wining the ellection. A press article runs on him that he does not like. He says the journalist is a liar and shuts his publication down.
Are you litterally that golable not to see how easy it is to abuse such a system?!

[May90]

Most other sites are focused with the riots in US. As i said german newspapers and breitbart is one of the few who reported it

Which makes one think that, perhaps, the real story is a bit different from how these sites depict it.

I, for one, given what I know about Obama and Merkel, highly doubt that they have seriously advocated for the government controlling the Internet. Such a suggestion would not be welcome, pretty much, anywhere in the civilized world.

[Aggrophobic]

A very valid question. Who gets to play the lie detector?

Take trump wining the ellection. A press article runs on him that he does not like. He says the journalist is a liar and shuts his publication down.
Are you litterally that golable not to see how easy it is to abuse such a system?!

Everyone gets to "play the lie detector".
It's dangerous when people start to belive sites such as Breitbart when their main goal is misinformations though.

There's an easy solution however - Education.

[urasim]

I think the problem is deciding what constitutes "fake news" is the problem here. For example, should we shut down comedians that do the news, like that John Oliver show? lol. Especially since the news frequently reports on opinionated subjects, it seems like this thing would be impossible to actually pull off, without censoring legitimate news sources as well.

Yeah, and do we also crack down on obviously biased news stations for not giving the full story? Like MSNBC and Fox? Is there such a thing as an unbiased news station? I don't think there is.

[veehro]

Everyone gets to "play the lie detector".
It's dangerous when people start to belive sites such as Breitbart when their main goal is misinformations though.

There's an easy solution however - Education.

Then if you already have an easy solution that is education. Why would you ban journalistic outlets?
And should you also ban journalistic outlets who just present half of the story? Because I think you would have to ban pretty much the entire mass media at that point and just get your news directly from the goverment