France becomes first European country to label items from illegal Israeli settlements

[Anon56]

France (and western europe) is dead man walking anyway. Israel stopped paying attention to them and make stronger ties with eastern europe and even russia - countries that won't die out in near future.

Beware of what you say, remember the last warning.

[Tennis]

Why would you support racism and anti-semitism? We need to support Jewish people, not kill them.

Can you elaborate how supporting illegal settlements that human rights group oppose is a good thing?

[Deleted]

Can you elaborate how supporting illegal settlements that human rights group oppose is a good thing?

Is there any point going round the houses on this one again. You know what those people are like. Bring up anything bad Israel has done ever and they stick their fingers in their ears and go "la-la-la".

[Deleted]

Good. Israel should be embargoed until they stop genociding the palestinians and give up their outdated ethnic concept of the state. They need to change their flag towards something more neutral (the current flag refer to judaism), change the country name, and give up the jewish and hebrew only view of the country. Israel needs to respect the arabs as much as the jews. Also, they need to start taking in syrian refugees.

[May90]

What does an item being from illegal Israeli settlements have to do with its value to the customers? Preposterous idea.

And maybe Hollande, just like many other faithful defenders of Palestinian regime, should finally look up how the things are really going there. Maybe he should visit Palestine? Because if items from illegal settlements deserve 1 label, then those from Palestine or countries supporting Palestine deserve 100 labels - gotta be pretty hard putting them on on a single item!

[serenka]

so they just put a sticker on the item saying its from Israel?
wow big deal.

[araine]

excellent since Israel and the warcrimes they commit should be boycotted at all times.

[May90]

Where are the labels on items shipped from China? Human rights issues there are in a pretty bad state...

Oh, wait, probably half the products in France are shipped from China, so the logic doesn't apply here, got it.

[nextormento]

Where are the labels on items shipped from China? Human rights issues there are in a pretty bad state...

What does an item being from illegal Israeli settlements have to do with its value to the customers?

It's Europe. Knowing where stuff is made is kind of a big deal: words like "Parmesan" or "Champagne" are forbidden for cheeses or sparkly wine made outside some specific region, even if they're made in the same way. These things feature prominently all through our EU intergovernmental treaties and trade agreements. So it's just an exercise on consistency, not value per se. Thought the value aspect is backed on the very strategy of origin labeling: prestige is a big aspect of branding.

It's clearly not about human rights. At all. Products from china are branded "made in China" anyway.

For specifics, the EU also explicitly says that the illegal settlements are not part of the country. They say this about many other places (like Western Sahara not being part of Morocco, much as Morocco wants it to) which, I think, should get the same treatment.
So, the goal was not having products from not-Israel branded as Israeli: it'd be false advertising otherwise. But it comes with cute features like labeling something as from "Golan Heights" not being sufficiently clear.

If you think our labeling is silly, go nuts. But, as far as politics go, this thing has been propagandized well beyond the attention it deserves.

[ezgeze]

hey look, more jew bashing by the tolerant left.

[ezgeze]

Israel =/= Jews

While true, the fact that many jews live there is why the left hates Israel so much.
They may claim that its because of other reasons, but in reality they always hated them. They just mask it differently now than they used to.

[ezgeze]

That's just an all around bizarre thing to believe.

Not everything they do has to make sense. Take the SJW on college campuses atm and their attempt to suppress free speech yet claim they support freedom of speech. Their side is the victim party, where they need someone to demonize, be that person a republican, man, white person, or a black person who doesn't vote democrat for their problems in the world.
This is also why they hate the US and claim we are oppressive but don't seem all that bothered by actual oppressive countries like Cuba, China, and the ME countries. Israel is just their whipping boy atm because its an easy target for them, it makes them feel good to openly bash them because well, they are enlightened than other common folks.

[ezgeze]

No, just linked a video that highlights a contradiction between what the party says to what the party truly believes. Not everything is black and white and in the open. You need to look at the underlying beliefs of those within the party.

[Tennis]

hey look, more jew bashing by the tolerant left.

Elaborate how standing up for human rights and international law equates to this. Thanks!

[May90]

Elaborate how standing up for human rights and international law equates to this. Thanks!

If you stood up for human rights, then the first thing you would do is advocate for deposing totalitarian fascist Palestinian regime. But it's easier to pick on Israeli, I guess, since everybody does, right? This isn't about human rights, this is just about hopping on the train for the popular cause, without really bothering to educate oneself about the reality of the situation.

Something which is pretty common, sadly. People supporting Abbas, Castro, Che, Hussein, Arafat, Assad, Gaddafi, Putin, Ho Chi Minh and other unsavory people, because their motives sound good on paper - without caring about the harsh reality behind the beautiful facade.

[Kallisto]

First post in a Tennisace thread!!! My life has meaning now....

Also no shits are given by Israel. France can throw all the tantrums it wants, Israel will not give up those territories anytime soon, and they shouldn't either, as they conquered them fair and square in a war they didn't start.
By that logic, Russia should give back Kaliningrad to Germany and compensate all the germans that lived there for deportations/killings/rapes/whatever.

Actually the territories were conquered by Israel in the 1967 war, which was started by Israeli airstrikes on Egyptian Air fields which held their air force.

[Stormdash]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7444031.html




Great to see. No country should purchase goods from these illegal settlements. I expect more countries to follow suit in the future.

In case anyone beyond this navel-gazing was hoping -- no, you (being France) are still considered just as much infidels as you were yesterdays. All this means is that you're infidels who can be had.

[Artaxerxes]

Am I seeing what I am reading? The left being anti-Semitic? After they label the 'alt-right' the same thing?

But then again the Labour Party had some anti-Semitic MP's in their party so not surprising. Was under the impression that socialism was supposed to be friendly to Jewish people given that Jews were instrumental in its founding (Marx, Trotsky, et al.).

[ezgeze]

Elaborate how standing up for human rights and international law equates to this. Thanks!

Where were you when Israel was being invaded by the surrounding countries?
When they had rockets fired into their civilian populations?
had their cafe's and busses bombed?
Had their citizens being kidnapping people through tunnels?
Or when their neighbors voted in a terrorist organization to run their government?

Yeah, thought so.

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Actually the territories were conquered by Israel in the 1967 war, which was started by Israeli airstrikes on Egyptian Air fields which held their air force.

Pay no attention to the horde armies amassing on the boarder,
or the radio stations claiming they are going to push the jews into the sea.......
of the people on the streets celebrating a certain military victory...
they came in peace, yeah.

Well Israel didn't buy it and they HAD to attack first, or else they probably couldn't have survived.
People here seem to think Israel should just give up land that they acquired because the other side fucked up, except that it would leave them with a defenseless boarder. Hell, Israel could give away every sliver of land in the middle east except for a single square kilometer and that still wouldn't be enough. It would be bombed.

Some people you cant appease, and shouldn't deal with.

[Mavett]

Actually the territories were conquered by Israel in the 1967 war, which was started by Israeli airstrikes on Egyptian Air fields which held their air force.

The war started when Egypt blockaded the Straits of Tiran and put a halt to the oil supply to Israel (90% of the oil import).


As for the French labeling, not really concerned borderline don't care.