Tucker Carlson great debate on affirmative action

[satimy]

Great interview, Tucker really makes a case for what affirmative action is, which is blatant racism under the guise of "good natured social engineering"

[Hammerfest]

That's not the real Tucker Carlson. The Real Tucker Carlson wears a bow tie.

[RickJamesLich]

Can't cuck the Tuck.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Wait what?

".....200 more points than black students, and 400 points more than African American students".

Can someone explain what he meant by this?

[alexkeren]

Wait what?

".....200 more points than black students, and 400 points more than African American students".

Can someone explain what he meant by this?

On a lousy iNet connection on my iPad so can't watch video.

However not all Black people are American, so maybe whatever comparison is global?

[KrazyK923]

"Tucker Carlson" and "great" should never be in the same sentence unless its "Tucker Carlson does a great job at guzzling down GOP semen."

[The Oblivion]

affirmative action is modern day racial bias, if not blatant racism

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

"Tucker Carlson" and "great" should never be in the same sentence unless its "Tucker Carlson does a great job at guzzling down GOP semen."

Good grief Charlie Brown!

Why do liberals always go to penis and semen when attacking someone?

[GreenJesus]

"Tucker Carlson" and "great" should never be in the same sentence unless its "Tucker Carlson does a great job at guzzling down GOP semen."

He was actually fighting for the rights of minorities including Asians. Apparently Harvard requires Asians to score 540 points higher than other applicants and the number of Asians accepted are the same despite the number of Asians applying doubled. Affirmative action is racist in intself. Quota systems are unconstitutional and yet the data suggests they very clearly do. That is what he talked about in the video.

This video is true. My friend in high school with a common vietnamese last name had his last name changed to appear less asian for college and job opportunities.

[KrazyK923]

Good grief Charlie Brown!

Why do liberals always go to penis and semen when attacking someone?

Because it triggers Conservatives and is generally hilarious when they are.

Like how they call everyone "cuck" now.

[Endus]

He was actually fighting for the rights of minorities including Asians. Apparently Harvard requires Asians to score 540 points higher than other applicants and the number of Asians accepted are the same despite the number of Asians applying doubled.

Except that this is a lie. Point-based affirmative action systems are unconstitutional, as SCOTUS has already ruled. They no longer exist. Where these "point values" came from is from an independent analyst inventing values, and ignoring that Harvard's admissions process is more holistic than that.

The numbers aren't real. They're an agenda-driven bit of misleading rhetoric.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Except that this is a lie. Point-based affirmative action systems are unconstitutional, as SCOTUS has already ruled. They no longer exist. Where these "point values" came from is from an independent analyst inventing values, and ignoring that Harvard's admissions process is more holistic than that.

The numbers aren't real. They're an agenda-driven bit of misleading rhetoric.

Any evidence you want to link to that?

If what you are saying is true, why wouldn't the guest have stated these things clearly, and not keep going back to "muh mexican parents being deported", and "muh black americans getting killed by police for wearing a hoodie" nonsense?

[alexw]

Great interview, Tucker really makes a case for what affirmative action is, which is blatant racism under the guise of "good natured social engineering"

Lol. Satimy, a white supremacist argues against affirmative action on the grounds that its racism. You couldn't make it up could you?

[GennGreymane]

Any evidence you want to link to that?

If what you are saying is true, why wouldn't the guest have stated these things clearly, and not keep going back to "muh mexican parents being deported", and "muh black americans getting killed by police for wearing a hoodie" nonsense?

I assume Endus is refering to Gratz v. Bollinger

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the University of Michigan's undergraduate admissions system, which granted extra "points" to minorities based on race, and which determined admissions status based on cumulative points, was unconstitutional because it is too mechanical and does not appear to consider the individual's actual contribution to the educational environment.

http://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/c...z-v-bollinger/

[Endus]

Any evidence you want to link to that?

Which, the SCOTUS case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger

Harvard's admissions policy?

Then and now, the College considers each applicant through an individualized, holistic review having the goal of creating a vibrant academic community that exposes students to a wide range of differences: background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations. The University’s admissions processes remain fully compliant with all legal requirements and are essential to the pedagogical objectives that underlie Harvard’s educational mission.

http://hpac.harvard.edu/admissions-policy-statement

This stuff is well-known.

As for the numbers, it's boiling down college applications to JUST the SAT scores, which is deliberately misleading, which is sort of the point.

[satimy]

Which, the SCOTUS case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger

Harvard's admissions policy?

Then and now, the College considers each applicant through an individualized, holistic review having the goal of creating a vibrant academic community that exposes students to a wide range of differences: background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations. The University’s admissions processes remain fully compliant with all legal requirements and are essential to the pedagogical objectives that underlie Harvard’s educational mission.

http://hpac.harvard.edu/admissions-policy-statement

This stuff is well-known.

As for the numbers, it's boiling down college applications to JUST the SAT scores, which is deliberately misleading, which is sort of the point.

So its just a statistical convenience that the vast majority of students that get rejected with super high SAT scores are Asian?

Also youve apparently missed the point, the point is that considering being black or asian to be "background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations". I dont care how you try to spin it, its clearly racial discrimination.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Which, the SCOTUS case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger

Harvard's admissions policy?

Then and now, the College considers each applicant through an individualized, holistic review having the goal of creating a vibrant academic community that exposes students to a wide range of differences: background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations. The University’s admissions processes remain fully compliant with all legal requirements and are essential to the pedagogical objectives that underlie Harvard’s educational mission.

http://hpac.harvard.edu/admissions-policy-statement

This stuff is well-known.

As for the numbers, it's boiling down college applications to JUST the SAT scores, which is deliberately misleading, which is sort of the point.

So you believe that even with SAT scores 540 point higher than black students, that the black students background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations more than make up for that compared to asian students?

What amazing backgrounds, ideas, experiences, talents and aspiration these black students must have to overcome a 540 SAT deficit!

Truly magical!

[Draco-Onis]

I always find it funny that conservatives attack affirmative action but say nothing about nepotism which bring in more people and is far more biased in terms of college admissions.

[satimy]

So you believe that even with SAT scores 540 point higher than black students, that the black students background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations more than make up for that compared to asian students?

What amazing backgrounds, ideas, experiences, talents and aspiration these black students must have to overcome a 540 SAT deficit!

Truly magical!

And by making that argument you are also saying that there can be "too many asians" which is inherently racist.

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I always find it funny that conservatives attack affirmative action but say nothing about nepotism which bring in more people and is far more biased in terms of college admissions.

So you justify blatant racism because why.........only liberals can care about discrimination and if they don't than its clearly not?

[GennGreymane]

And by making that argument you are also saying that there can be "too many asians" which is inherently racist.

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So you justify blatant racism because why.........only liberals can care about discrimination and if they don't than its clearly not?

How about too many cooks?