Anthem: Bioware's next Mass Effect-like IP

[apelsinjuice]

Can you sum up his point here? I honestly like the dudes videos most of the time but every time he talks about Anthem the shit he latches onto has me scratching my head. Anyone who is still latching onto the tomb thing is just... ugh...

Don't really get why the sub thing is bad for the consumer, for 8$ and some change a month you get access to a large catalog filled with some great games. You will EASILY get far more than 99$ worth of value out of that sub. For 15$ you get to play the full version of a brand new game for a whole month which will be plenty of time to exhaust most if not all of a games content at which point you can decide to buy it or not with a 10% discount.

So I'm not sure how its burning anyone.

he said retailers are losing money, which is true, but they do that anyway when most people just buy online from the game stores nowdays

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Funny that people bring up useless legendaries and say it's this horrible thing... sure the rolls need to be revised somewhat but I have put MANY hours into diablo 3, where Primals are basically equivalent to Anthems legendaries... but drop even less and I have NEVER gotten a useful one.

like diablo 3 is a good example to justice bad in another game, when diablo 3 is so bad even their biggest fan site have to shut down because the game is so dead

[Onikaroshi]

he said retailers are losing money, which is true, but they do that anyway when most people just buy online from the game stores nowdays

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like diablo 3 is a good example to justice bad in another game, when diablo 3 is so bad even their biggest fan site have to shut down because the game is so dead

Diablo 3 post Reaper of souls was a really good game, the only thing that killed it now is BLIZZARD killing it. Unlike the D2 era people expect updates now, and they just weren't giving them. People longed for another expansion to spend money on, but Blizzard didn't give it. It has nothing to do with the game itself.

And as for popular games.... In my time playing POE I've gotten so many useless Uniques it's not even funny. Useless Classified set pieces in Division, check. It's not an Anthem thing, it's a looter game thing. People on the Destiny reddit talk about getting very little loot and half the time when you do it's useless.

[Video Games]

So is every mission going to be the exact same or is there gonna be some more variety? Its literally go to x, fight stuff, pick something up, and repeat 2 more times.

[Shinzai]

So is every mission going to be the exact same or is there gonna be some more variety? Its literally go to x, fight stuff, pick something up, and repeat 2 more times.

Of course they'll be different: When you get to GM, the enemies have more health.

[Onikaroshi]

So is every mission going to be the exact same or is there gonna be some more variety? Its literally go to x, fight stuff, pick something up, and repeat 2 more times.

Welcome to looters.

Diablo: Murder everything until boss
Division: Do the same mission over and over
Etc. Etc.

[Video Games]

Of course they'll be different: When you get to GM, the enemies have more health.

:/ ive done everything on hard and its not even hard.

[Sixnalia]

So is every mission going to be the exact same or is there gonna be some more variety? Its literally go to x, fight stuff, pick something up, and repeat 2 more times.

It'll be a randomized location where the objectives are varied.
Similar to Warframe having various mission types, but the faction/tileset/etc. is randomized. (unless farming a map)

Or an alternative take on Diablo's rifts.

[Baconeggcheese]

he said retailers are losing money, which is true, but they do that anyway when most people just buy online from the game stores nowdays

I dunno why I should care about said retailers though.

[Onikaroshi]

I dunno why I should care about said retailers though.

What! You don't care that Best Buy, the king of overpriced, is losing money? Or Walmart, the king of fucking over employees? How dare you!

[Video Games]

Welcome to looters.

Diablo: Murder everything until boss
Division: Do the same mission over and over
Etc. Etc.

They could have done different missions. Stealth, horde, recon, collect etc. 6 years for this ecks dee

[Baconeggcheese]

So is every mission going to be the exact same or is there gonna be some more variety? Its literally go to x, fight stuff, pick something up, and repeat 2 more times.

Yup, this is a loot grinder. You just do the same thing until you max out your progression or you get tired of it. Like every other loot grinder that's ever existed.

[Onikaroshi]

They could have done different missions. Stealth, horde, recon, collect etc. 6 years for this ecks dee

Stealth would never work

Horde mode is probably on the table somwhere

Not even sure what you mean by recon?

Obviously collect is already thing.

At it's core though, the game is about shooting, killing, and then looting, and they do that wonderfully.

[Onikaroshi]

That's ok. They're releasing a totally "experimental" game mode that'll do nothing more than increase difficulty so you can do the same shit over again.

If you're talking about the "experimental" legendary missions mode... you mean the mode that people have been asking for like crazy? They're giving people what they wanted, they wanted to replay story missions but harder.

Me thinks a lot of people expected this game to not be what it is.... a looter shooter. They wanted something different and get pissed when the game didn't cater to them.

The people who love this game are the same type of people who have been grinding Baal in D2 for years, who play the same level in any game like this over and over and over and over again just chasing loot, that's what we have fun with. I have done tyrant mine like 30 times already, but I'm still having fun, and as long as I keep getting loot, I'll keep having fun.

[Video Games]

Stealth would never work

Horde mode is probably on the table somwhere

Not even sure what you mean by recon?

Obviously collect is already thing.

At it's core though, the game is about shooting, killing, and then looting, and they do that wonderfully.

Anything could have worked if they bothered to make it. Even base d3 had bonus objectives while you do the main story lol. This feels like a yearly release that took 6 years

[Onikaroshi]

Anything could have worked if they bothered to make it. Even base d3 had bonus objectives while you do the main story lol. This feels like a yearly release that took 6 years

When was the last time anyone in D3 did anything story wise? That game amounts to: Go here, kill this. Kill 100 enemies. Free some dudes.

[Onikaroshi]

Whether people asked for it or not, the part I laugh at is calling a new difficulty setting some sort of "experimental game mode". Might also want to take into consideration why people are asking for it so early in the game's life.

The game is exactly what I expected it to be. There is no anger over not catering to me here. Me thinks you just need some reason to paint anyone critical of the game in a bad light.

They never said "experimental game mode" they said they would throw out a couple to see if people actually LIKED them before doing more. The game has problems, but don't make shit up.

And they're asking for it because they want to replay story missions? Hard to comprehend for you?

[Sixnalia]

They could have done different missions. Stealth, horde, recon, collect etc. 6 years for this ecks dee

New "modes" might be coming with shaperstorm/cataclysm related content.

Though I'm happy with what we have at the moment.
43 hours, and currently still playing.

Warframe's variety of mission types kind of falls to the side anyway.
Grand Master here with over 3k hours.

Spy is just rushing, usually bringing a specific frame. Also encourages solo-play as others can fail it for you.
Defense and Mobile Defense are the same thing, except you defend 1 location versus 2-3 locations in order.

Interception is similar to defense, but you defend 4 objectives simultaneously.

Exterminate is just people nuking everything.

Rescue/Capture is just a rush to the objective, then rush to the end.

Assassination is a boss, most can be melted/cheesed.

Some newer ones are Hijack and Defection.
Both are escort-style.
Hijack being an escort of a defense objective.

Defection being Rescue, but multiple individuals. And they can't be cheesed with teleportation.

What I'm getting at, is that despite there being a lot of variety on paper. Many of the missions play exactly the same.

I -love- Warframe to death.
I'm also loving Anthem.

Warframe took a loooooooong time to get where it is now, and even then it has its flaws.
The content is very repetitive, but you can play a bit and take a break. Return for new content, play for a while, then take a break.

Anthem looks to be aiming for the same.
Bring players back when new content arrives, perhaps they'll buy some new goodies on the store, they'll play and when they're ready they will put it down for a while.
Then new content comes again.

It'll all depend on the quality of update content, really.


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Got a bunch of new masterworks to try some new Storm builds.
Once I'm satisfied, I think I'll move on to my Interceptor next.

[Dextroden]

When was the last time anyone in D3 did anything story wise? That game amounts to: Go here, kill this. Kill 100 enemies. Free some dudes.

Fly here. Shoot some aliens. Collect relic. Shoot big alien. Repeat.

[Baconeggcheese]

The game is exactly what I expected it to be.

Oh hey me too! Its even what they said it would be!

Must be why I'm enjoying it.

[Onikaroshi]

Where did I say that they called them "experimental"?

People are asking for them because they want more "content". Already. And at a difficulty setting that might actually be hard. Hard to comprehend for you?

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Not sure why you thought this was some form of argument. I know you have this overwhelming need to point out you enjoy the game though so, have at it.

Or they enjoyed the story missions and want to replay them? Just like in Division? You sure care a lot for someone who seems to hate the game for what it is.