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    Quote Originally Posted by rda View Post
    Too much damage, you die. A scaling issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowfeather View Post
    Can u elaborate? Is it bugged or is BH simply unkillable?
    Raid tuning has been an issue throughout all the beta, you do way less damage to the mobs and their health/damage could probably be lowered quite a bit, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seramore View Post
    Raid tuning has been an issue throughout all the beta, you do way less damage to the mobs and their health/damage could probably be lowered quite a bit, too.
    Man if only we had known Blizz was terrible at remembering to balance non-current content when they do giant sweeping changes like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rda View Post
    Too much damage, you die. A scaling issue.
    I believe the same thing happened last squish aswell. They will adjust numbers at some point.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    By the way, to those going that yeah, yeah, this particular patch has login and connectivity issues, but everything is going to be alright with the launch of the real expansion, this is nonsense. If you cannot allow a region of players to connect on a patch date, how can you ever hope to allow three regions to connect on an expansion date?? You cannot, the latter is more difficult. You'll be stringing excuses about "unusually powerful" DDOSes. So, maybe it's going to be alright, but I absolutely wouldn't bet on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I believe the same thing happened last squish aswell. They will adjust numbers at some point.
    Yes and "at some point" they probably will, however, they are supposed to do so during testing (issues were reported a lot of times) and haven't. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Man if only we had known Blizz was terrible at remembering to balance non-current content when they do giant sweeping changes like this.

    http://www.wowhead.com/news=280767/p...-and-wod-raids
    it's not a mistake.

    they're going to milk this until backlash is too much to ignore, for the MAU's, and then they'll revert it saying something about it being unintentional or whatever, like the liars they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Alodi View Post
    Bfa is going to have biggest shitshows on forum in wow history. Guess that's what happpens when you choose to ignore feedback for months.
    Why? Just cause the story is dumb and every class is boring?
    Wasn't that always the case post mop?

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    Story old as time: Blizzard intentionally scale up legacy content in the background > community backlash because there's no reason to take away oneshots once they're a thing > fix it saying it wasn't intentional > repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beste Kerel View Post
    Story old as time: Blizzard intentionally scale up legacy content in the background > community backlash because there's no reason to take away oneshots once they're a thing > fix it saying it wasn't intentional > repeat.
    It's not that, it's just lack of testing and general lack of attention to quality.

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    By the way, these are current sims:



    Even when you remove the obviously well-balanced spec at the top, observe the spread. It's almost 2x.

    What were they doing all this time again? Ah, right, I know. It's "tuned for 120" (in reality obviously not tuned for anything).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rda View Post
    It's not that, it's just lack of testing and general lack of attention to quality.
    More like lack of tuning. People have been talking about old raids being overtuned since the beta came out.

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    yeah i playing the worst dd specc in the game....

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    So that is redesigned BfA specs with Legion set bonuses? Who gives a crap how balanced they are. They don't matter any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    it's not a mistake.

    they're going to milk this until backlash is too much to ignore, for the MAU's, and then they'll revert it saying something about it being unintentional or whatever, like the liars they are.
    The last time the squish happened it got fixed so calm down. MAUs have nothing to do with, talking out of your ass doesn't do you any good.
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    Take off the obviously broken one on top and the three tanks at the bottom and it's a 2000 damage spread.

    With 5000 at the top.

    That's.... I wanna say hefty? I mean it's a 40% dropoff which seems like a lot? Legion's dropoff wasn't 40% right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spleen1015 View Post
    So that is redesigned BfA specs with Legion set bonuses? Who gives a crap how balanced they are. They don't matter any more.
    They matter for another ~30 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seramore View Post
    More like lack of tuning. People have been talking about old raids being overtuned since the beta came out.
    Yes, agree, I worded it badly. The issues were all reported, they just ignored the reports.

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    The only people they matter to are people who look to find anything they can to bitch about.

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    Are all specs/classes even running the same basic profile? Simcraft it only as good as the profiles and spec code.
    And yes, tuning at 110 isn't something they care about. Its 4 weeks of irrelevant content. Not worth balancing for that at all.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Are all specs/classes even running the same basic profile? Simcraft it only as good as the profiles and spec code.
    And yes, tuning at 110 isn't something they care about. Its 4 weeks of irrelevant content. Not worth balancing for that at all.
    Cool. Now let's just apply this to every area of the game and we can all happily unsub for a month. /sarcasm

    This line of reasoning is just stupid.

  19. #96559
    Quote Originally Posted by rda View Post
    Cool. Now let's just apply this to every other area of the game and we can all happily unsub for a month. /sarcasm

    This line of reasoning is just stupid.
    Please unsub forever and go find another game to nitpick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Alodi View Post
    Bfa is going to have biggest shitshows on forum in wow history. Guess that's what happpens when you choose to ignore feedback for months.
    We will see, most will probably be blinded by the shiny new animations and effects.

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