Bursty and awesome, or kinda bad? I think I read somewhere they were making Shiruken Storm massively increase Evisc damage or something?
Bursty and awesome, or kinda bad? I think I read somewhere they were making Shiruken Storm massively increase Evisc damage or something?
You can be a little bursty with Death from Above but sub doesn't focus on doing aoe damage but rather empowering your single target damage. Shuriken Storm increases your next Eviscerate by 10% per target hit (up to 50%). I don't think your primary target counts towards the buff though.
Burst AoE can be extremely high with Shuriken Storm with 30 stacks of Dreadlord's Deceit into Death from Above with Mantle of the Master Assassin, Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death.
Outside of using Cloak for burst AoE, the AoE is pretty weak and the only ability that does big AoE damage is DFA. Instead, Subtlety does increased damage during AoE by funneling it into the boss using Shuriken Combo, which often is more valuable than regular AoE.
Well for Myt + its just insane, Cloak + shoulders, Dance + symbol into stealth out Suriken 30 stacked + DFA and aoe trinket = most stuff die. And as mentioned on burst aoe in raids. In other aoe situation dps is high cause we funnel intop 1 target.
With proper items (back, shoulders and umbral moonglaive) sub AoE burst is one of the highest in the game.
Had over 2m total dps in several +15 and up this week <3 sub sub in teeming prefix
aboslutely fucking bananas ..the 2 blob packs before 2nd boss in EoA i consistently get 15 mill dps on
that is with full stacks, 950 glaives and DfA
sub is pretty much godmode in mythic + atm with those items and only well playing and good geared locks and warriors gets near me on the overall meter
to be honest, to have a dps spike on those critter pulls is just a fun game. I wonder why people always release all their massive cooldowns on those slime and crab packs instead of using them on the important time killers (trash with high hp pools). If you do 15 mil or 5 mil dps on the slimes, its a difference of a single digit second of infight time.
Its actually quite more effective to release everything you have on a pull of 2 high hp mobs or rather in necessary big pulls instead of wasting all of your shit on those slimes/crabs. Its not a critic on rogues only, because we only have the glaive trinket as CD in those situations and to not use shuriken storm is not an option.
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I don't see how cloak is good at all for mythics+, maybe I'm thinking of something wrong?
In aoe packs you are constantly using storm to get cp and burn down adds one at a time, there is really never any time to let the cloak buff stack up after the initial opener, and since you're almost chain pulling you won't even get high stacks most of the time just for the opener.
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I don't know about you but on 17+ mythics locks can very easily outlast my burst and keep very high dmg with their dots, and I can never keep up, warriors that use all their cooldowns can spike to 15million on 5 targets, mm hunters with trueshot can easily beat me too.
Arcane mages can also outlast my burst, there is honestly too many specs that outperform sub aoe at high mythics and I'm talking about packs that last way more than 40 seconds.
Now, when it comes to removing certain dangerous mobs from the premises ASAP, nothing beats sub single target with shuriken combo.
I don't know about you but on 17+ mythics locks can very easily outlast my burst and keep very high dmg with their dots, and I can never keep up, warriors that use all their cooldowns can spike to 15million on 5 targets, mm hunters with trueshot can easily beat me too.
Arcane mages can also outlast my burst, there is honestly too many specs that outperform sub aoe at high mythics and I'm talking about packs that last way more than 40 seconds.
Now, when it comes to removing certain dangerous mobs from the premises ASAP, nothing beats sub single target with shuriken combo.
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I really don't see the use for cloak at all, it takes too long to stack, on anything past m+10 the burst is meaningless and since you're spamming shriken for cp, you won't ever let it stack past 2-3 on a regular pack of mobs.
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