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    China backs North Korea sanctions

    Well a bit of good news for a change.

    China buys all of North Korea's coal which is North Korea's major export, China is also the market for all of North Korea's black market stuff like slave labor and prostitution so if China cracks down on trade with North Korea that's a big thing.

    And if China fixes the North Korea problem that would be a big worldwide accomplishment.

    You know why the experts are saying North Korea wan'ts an ICBM? So they can hold the US at bay while they invade South Korea. North Koreans have always believed that North Korea has popular support among the South Korean masses who would welcome an invasion.





    http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-...nctions-647020

    China has said that new sanctions imposed on North Korea following a U.N. vote are justified—but urged the totalitarian state and other international partners to get back round the table for talks aimed at stopping its nuclear program.

    China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Sunday that "After the implementation of the [U.N.] resolutions, the Korean peninsula issue enters into a critical juncture," Reuters reported.

    "We call on all sides to take a responsible attitude when making judgments and taking actions.... We cannot do one and neglect the other. Sanctions are needed but sanctions are not the final goal," Wang added.


    The new U.N. resolution, drafted by the U.S. and implemented in response to two July intercontinental ballistic missile tests, bans North Korean exports of coal, iron, iron ore, lead, lead ore and seafood. It could slash the country’s export revenues, which stand at $3 billion per year, by one third.

    "The aim is to bring the peninsula nuclear issue back to the negotiating table and seek a solution through negotiations until the denuclearization of the peninsula and the stability of the peninsula are achieved," Wang said in a statement, according to ABC news.

    In 2003, China, the United States, North and South Korea, Japan, and Russia first entered into negotiations aimed at bringing Pyongyang’s controversial nuclear program to a close.

    But the talks came to a standstill in 2009 when North Korea walked out; the U.N. had imposed new sanctions on the country after it tested a missile it claimed was part of a civilian space program.

    The U.S. has said it will not re-engage with North Korea if it comes to talks with the intention of maintaining its nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, North Korea’s aim from the talks is to secure a non-aggression pact from the United States, which deploys almost 30,000 troops in South Korea.

    Wang’s statement Sunday re-iterated China’s view that a “double suspension”—of both North Korea’s nuclear program and U.S.-South Korea joint military exercises—is necessary to tackle the rising tension.
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    North Korea has made it very clear that any new sanctions against them would be met with military aggression. This will be interesting.

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    There is only one solution to this crisis. The absolute destruction of the North Korean state by any means necessary.

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    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.

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    Should liberate the people of NK, they cant even watch tv outside of the 24/7 progaganda they run without getting executed ffs. Gotta give them that freedom.

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    I don't understand what the N Koreans want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.
    You put far too much power into his hands, the real power is the military leadership over there, Kim Jong Un is just a figure head he has some power but he's like a big child they are steering and pushing in a direction they want since young age.

    So removing him alone wouldn't do much.

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    I really spent everything so it would come to this. I want America to attack, but more official than in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.
    The last time the west offed a countries leader (Sadam Hussein) everything went to hell in a handbasket and we ended up with things being worse than they started out with.. This time they will have to play things carefully as Kim Jong is just nuts enough to start something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    There is only one solution to this crisis. The absolute destruction of the North Korean state by any means necessary.
    If only that was an option - which it is not.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    I don't understand what the N Koreans want.
    They pretty much want South Korea..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.
    Because that worked so well in countries like Iraq didn't it? People like you have no concept of cause and effect or appreciation of nuance. "Kim Jong bad - shoot him!" So fucking simple isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    Because that worked so well in countries like Iraq didn't it? People like you have no concept of cause and effect or appreciation of nuance. "Kim Jong bad - shoot him!" So fucking simple isn't it?
    Yeah clearly. You got me.

    Shoot with my eyes closed! Hell, let's just nuke the entire world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    There is only one solution to this crisis. The absolute destruction of the North Korean state by any means necessary.
    While I agree, it would be hard to do without them lashing out at South Korea in retaliation. They basically have a hostage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.
    Assassination wouldn't do much. We've seen this before. The only way to solve the problem permanently would be long-term annexation. North Korea 51st state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post
    While I agree, it would be hard to do without them lashing out at South Korea in retaliation. They basically have a hostage.
    Hell, many people consider the average North Korean citizen hostages, too, whether those citizens realise it or not.

    Nuking NK would be a quick and easy solution, sure, but there are way too many innocents involved for anyone with the slightest claim to humanity to be able to seriously consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selastan View Post

    Assassination wouldn't do much. We've seen this before. The only way to solve the problem permanently would be long-term annexation. North Korea 51st state?
    While I never put anything out of the question I find this EXTREMELY unlikely. North Korea needs, at least, a generation not under insane autocracy to even be remotely possible to integrate with any nation, let alone the United States.

    I'm not gleefully saying we should go kill all possible threats, even if that's what certain people took away from my comments. But removing Kim Jong Un and his military cabinet would probably go a long way in easing the conflicts with the rest of the world. It could even lead to a unified Korea entirely if the proper sanctions and benefits were enacted by far more sophisticated diplomats than I.

    Then again we have the Trump White House, which doesn't seem to know how to fucking do anything. From such an ignorant perespetive that I, and most of us who are not privy to any kind of military intelligence are, it seems like that we just need to make sure anti-ICBM defenses are in place for South Korea and anywhere adjacent or nearby North Korea before doing SOMETHING.

    Regimes like this always topple when the figurehead is removed. Sure, it has turned out negatively in the past (Like with Iraq), but if done properly, could usher in a new generation of peace in the region. I can't imagine EVERY single "millennial" North Korean are on board with the current regime's propaganda. Not from all the reports and specials I've seen from various organizations. Like many other political topics, it seems like the current adult generation is far more willing to compromise now than in the past.

    I'm, naturally, not saying there wouldn't be incredibly difficult and complicated conflicts between the nations, but by almost every account possible, the current generation in power/coming into power are far more open to negotiations than in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Is it really SO difficult for the most powerful and wealthiest countries to assassinate a clearly corrupt leader and his council of another country that is endangering the entire world's stability? At this point getting rid of Kim Jong Un is a straight up Humanitarian goal.
    Assassinating the leader of a sovereign nation is a crime.

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    Why are there sanctions against NK anyway? They have not harmed any other nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Assassinating the leader of a sovereign nation is a crime.
    Of course it is. It's me suggesting we murder another country's entire sovereign command structure. I'm not sure what your point here is.

    Kim Jong Un seems intent on saber rattling his newfound power here, and we can't let that despot command ANY part of the Korean region, let alone do so with nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Of course it is. It's me suggesting we murder another country's entire sovereign command structure. I'm not sure what your point here is.

    Kim Jong Un seems intent on saber rattling his newfound power here, and we can't let that despot command ANY part of the Korean region, let alone do so with nuclear weapons.
    Why not? They are a sovereign nation. As long as they don't attack anybody else they can do what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Why not? They are a sovereign nation. As long as they don't attack anybody else they can do what they want.
    This is a ridiculously ignorant position. North Korea has always been a bluster state, willing to do every kind of deception and lie possible to hold onto its command structure.

    Allowing such an unstable and foreign nation access to NUCLEAR WEAPONS, the use of which could lead to the literal end of the world, is ignorant at best, horribly, HORRIBLY, irresponsible at worst.

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