[Megathread] Law Breakers

[Jtbrig7390]

Comes out tomorrow Aug 8th for $30 and all future content (Maps/Heroes) will be 100% free. I'm highly looking forward to it and will own it for both Ps4 and PC.


(It is 60Fps on console if anyone is interested in knowing)

[Beckers]

5 seconds of just hearing the music and I already hate it :|

It's like a TV show that's aimed at kids at the 90's and tries to be cool..

[dope_danny]

I'm wary enough of another 'hero shooter' as is but cliffy B trying to shill it as an esports UR-game is enough to make me wait and see.

[Ickz]

Played its open beta events and thought it felt like a super boring/generic indie game trying to capitalize on the hero shooter craze. I predict it will never pick up steam and have much of a playerbase.

[GennGreymane]

I tried it and got bored

I mean its not bad, but the hero arena shooter market is way too fucking saturated right now

[Jtbrig7390]

PS4 Pro: On a 4K tv its 1440p and on a normal HD tv its 1080p. Runs like a dream dam near holding 60fps with small dips of 50fps.

PS4 Base: Runs like a nightmare and has sub 1080p res. Can drop as low as 30FPS.

Personally I'm enjoying it.

[JohnBrown1917]

Been playing for the last few days, very fast fasted gameplay. That alone put it above other class-based shooters, imo. Feels more like an Arena shooter.

[Jtbrig7390]

Been playing for the last few days, very fast fasted gameplay. That alone put it above other class-based shooters, imo. Feels more like an Arena shooter.

Ya it gives that Quake/Unreal feel and I love it.

[RuneDK]

That DF video makes me think even less of these current consoles....I swear if both put outdated "next-gen" consoles to the degree both the base ps4/xbox one are...I will gladly avoid "next-gen" and stick to my PC.

Game was okay at PAX East, but not good enough to warrant my purchase...maybe if they do a free weekend of some sort I'll check it out then...otherwise glad people are having fun...but I'll pass.

[Jtbrig7390]

That DF video makes me think even less of these current consoles....I swear if both put outdated "next-gen" consoles to the degree both the base ps4/xbox one are...I will gladly avoid "next-gen" and stick to my PC.

Its not the console its the developer, There is many games that look far better then LB and yet runs better.

I love LB but the optimization was/is shit.

[RuneDK]

Its not the console its the developer, There is many games that look far better then LB and yet runs better.

I love LB but the optimization was/is shit.

I mean, yes it's the developer not maximizing the system(HZD is beautiful, but iirc it only runs at 30 fps even on a pro which is my point entirely)....These systems are complete dogshit in comparison to technology made available. They benefit from being a closed circuit...but really there's no reason every game is not 1080/60 for consoles nowadays. PC has been doing it for a long time and home consoles can't do it regularly without hurting graphic fidelity. In 2017, it should be a standard for the base models of these systems...not something that can sometimes happen...which is really what im talking about.

Like mostly what I am saying, is the base console(Xbox One and PS4, not the X or Pro counterparts) should 1080/60 be a luxury....not in today's day of technology. I understand the whole they had to keep costs down...but I would rather spend $100 more and get something worth a damn than what these consoles are....The Pro/X are different beasts and essentially what the systems should have been from the get go imho.

[Jtbrig7390]

Like mostly what I am saying, is the base console(Xbox One and PS4, not the X or Pro counterparts) should 1080/60 be a luxury....not in today's day of technology. I understand the whole they had to keep costs down...but I would rather spend $100 more and get something worth a damn than what these consoles are....The Pro/X are different beasts and essentially what the systems should have been from the get go imho.

Even if X/Pro was the systems we got from the get go we would likely get 1080p/30fps. Graphics sell performance doesn't, Its been clear for awhile that at lease when it comes to first party titles Company's give more shits about graphics then performance.

After that its really up to the dev's and most of those only give a shit about graphic's when it comes to console. On consoles you can push hardware limits that you can't on PC and therefor dev's make the games look shinny because they sell.

Sadly this isn't a new thing ether and has been happening since last gen.

As for LB there is no excuse for it to run as shitty as it does on the base PS4, Lucky for me I play on a Pro but still.

[RuneDK]

Even if X/Pro was the systems we got from the get go we would likely get 1080p/30fps. Graphics sell performance doesn't, Its been clear for awhile that at lease when it comes to first party titles Company's give more shits about graphics then performance.

After that its really up to the dev's and most of those only give a shit about graphic's when it comes to console. On consoles you can push hardware limits that you can't on PC and therefor dev's make the games look shinny because they sell.

Sadly this isn't a new thing ether and has been happening since last gen.

As for LB there is no excuse for it to run as shitty as it does on the base PS4, Lucky for me I play on a Pro but still.

Yea I completely agree on the running poorly as it does on reg PS4....but this was personally my worry about both sides releasing a more powerful version...at some point the developers will have to make the game run better on the ps4 pro to get sales going...HZD ran great on both systems(was playing it on reg ps4 then upgraded to a pro myself and it ran great on both, only major difference was less blur when the camera moved). For LB to run that poorly on a base PS4 and that well on a PS4 Pro it just makes me worried that Sony will catch on(or MS if it was on Xbox One) and purposely make games run worse on the base systems to push people towards the upgraded systems...and I wouldn't put it past either doing it as well.

[Jtbrig7390]

Yea I completely agree on the running poorly as it does on reg PS4....but this was personally my worry about both sides releasing a more powerful version...at some point the developers will have to make the game run better on the ps4 pro to get sales going...HZD ran great on both systems(was playing it on reg ps4 then upgraded to a pro myself and it ran great on both, only major difference was less blur when the camera moved). For LB to run that poorly on a base PS4 and that well on a PS4 Pro it just makes me worried that Sony will catch on(or MS if it was on Xbox One) and purposely make games run worse on the base systems to push people towards the upgraded systems...and I wouldn't put it past either doing it as well.

I wouldn't put it past either doing it but I really don't see that happening with ether company. It seems Sony and Microsoft is hands off when it comes to 3rd party dev's and I think both should put boot to ass to make the games run in a playable state.

Those playing on a Pro have a clear advantage over those playing on a base system and that should be something that is 100% not ok. Even if they had to drop it to 720p they should make the performance stable.

Hell Overwatch is full 1080p/60Fps on both systems and runs locked, Hell Doom is dam nearly 1080p 100% of the time and is 60FPS 100% of the time on the base model.

This to me screams dev's needing to rush the game out to meet a deadline. The Pro should even run it better then it does.

[GennGreymane]

Seems Lawbreakers is not doing so hot. Its a saturated market and they didnt do much advertising.

[dope_danny]

Consistently worse than battleborn numbers wise is a little worse than 'not doing so hot' its a symptom of western gamings creative void right now. Anyone gets something popular that makes money and the ideal right now seems to be 'but us too, right?' and we had it with mobas, then digital card games then 'hero shooters' and consumer fatigue has already set in for design by committee being replaced by design by meme.

[GennGreymane]

Consistently worse than battleborn numbers wise is a little worse than 'not doing so hot' its a symptom of western gamings creative void right now. Anyone gets something popular that makes money and the ideal right now seems to be 'but us too, right?' and we had it with mobas, then digital card games then 'hero shooters' and consumer fatigue has already set in for design by committee being replaced by design by meme.

and we already got 2 pirate games coming. Lets hope pirates are not next.

[Strangebrew]

Oh geeee, i guess Cliffy b dipshit shouldn't have pandered to Anita and gang.
On top of trying to sell the game through using buzzwords that belongs to the 90's, i guess people just aren't #skilledaf enough.


I take joy in watching the game fail so hard.

[Rorke]

It's so funny how poorly every single z shooter does. People want to talk about how its unpopular because other games in its genre are bigger but it really comes down to the gameplay and I think the vast majority of people do not like playing z shooters.

The game has no structure to it at all. Everyone just flies and hops around the map and every gunfight it completely mindless where you just spray aimlessly at bulletsponge enemies. Because the movement is so fast and cover doesn't matter you'll most of the time be either shot in the back or shoot someone else in the back.

I also don't understand why they released this game so early. They didn't even bother to launch the game with a ranked mode and there's no killcam. It seems as though devs these days just love releasing a beta version of a game and then when they add things 6 months later act like its a NEW FEATURE when its really something that should've been in the game to begin with.

[JohnBrown1917]

Cliffy B is claiming, that while the numbers are low, its not in any danger. TB also made some good arguments for a low'ish playerbase not being that big of a deal. The player count went up slightly this weekend, im not too worried.

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The game has no structure to it at all. Everyone just flies and hops around the map and every gunfight it completely mindless where you just spray aimlessly at bulletsponge enemies. Because the movement is so fast and cover doesn't matter you'll most of the time be either shot in the back or shoot someone else in the back.

Sounds like you only played in the lower MMR tiers, not a problem with enough skill.

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Consistently worse than battleborn numbers wise is a little worse than 'not doing so hot' its a symptom of western gamings creative void right now. Anyone gets something popular that makes money and the ideal right now seems to be 'but us too, right?' and we had it with mobas, then digital card games then 'hero shooters' and consumer fatigue has already set in for design by committee being replaced by design by meme.

This is not exactly a hero shooter though, its more of a hero/arena shooter hybrid. Its very different from games like OW and paladins.