Communism never killed 100M people

[Deleted]

Whenever you speak with neo mccarthyists about communism you will hear 2 things : "venezuela" and "100 million dead".

If you know your ideology can't rival communism it is convenient to use debate silencing fallacies.

Venezuela has already been debunked plenty so I wanted to take a look at the 100 million dead claim and its sources.

Well it turns out it comes from... only one single book.

Suddenly all seems fishy. So I read the wiki article and stumble on this :

Two of the book's main contributors, Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin, as well as Karel Bartosek, publicly disassociated[4]:xii themselves from Courtois' statements in the introduction and criticized his editorial conduct. Werth and Margolin felt Courtois was "obsessed" with arriving at a total of 100 million killed, and faulted him for exaggerating death tolls in specific countries. They also argued that, based on the results of their studies, one can tentatively estimate the total number of the victims at between 65 and 93 million.

I'd lie if i said i was genuinely surprised. It was suspicious from the start that very average people suddenly became super educated about historical figures and events. Well it turns out that 100 million number was just another convenient scheme sourced from 1 single author whose collaborators disavowed, and singled out for use in us propaganda.

[Dys]

Oh, whew, had me scared there. Now that the death toll is clearly under 100 million by possibly a whole 7 million deaths, I can sleep well tonight, I was totes expecting nightmares over this. It's good to know that communism is a perfectly wonderful system because of this.

[Calfredd]

Venezuela was more of a socialist country (people keep confusing communist and socialist) who put all of their eggs in one basket economically speaking with other important factors that led to it's harsh decline and like Dys said, 7 million less deaths isn't exactly a point in your corner.

[Deleted]

Putting aside that fact that 7m millions is the lowest estimate for the fraud

I'm astonished to see how you brush it as 7 millions potential victims is nothing

Do you support genocide ?

Fuck this nazi forum seriously

[Zeek Daniels]

Putting aside that fact that 7m millions is the lowest estimate for the fraud

I'm astonished to see how you brush it as 7 millions potential victims is nothing

Do you support genocide ?

Fuck this nazi forum seriously

For someone who has BLM as their pic you sure dont seem to care about the genocide africans inflict on each other in africa do you?

[Calfredd]

Putting aside that fact that 7m millions is the lowest estimate for the fraud

I'm astonished to see how you brush it as 7 millions potential victims is nothing

Do you support genocide ?

Fuck this nazi forum seriously

Speak sense you nutter. The freakin' quote you posted said their studies put the total death max at 7 million less than the toted 100 million. If the total death toll was 25 million and they corrected 7 million then it would be something but 7 out of 100 is nothing. Go complain to Stormfront where the real Nazis are.

[Celestial476]

Putting aside that fact that 7m millions is the lowest estimate for the fraud

I'm astonished to see how you brush it as 7 millions potential victims is nothing

Do you support genocide ?

Fuck this nazi forum seriously

Watch out guys. This Communist/Antifa fanboy has had it up with you Nazi supporters!

/s

[Stelio Kontos]

Communism should stay on the ash heap of history. The communist and fascist regimes of the 20th century were blights on the world that should never be repeated.

Fascist and Communism are the right and left hands of tyranny.

[Post]

I feel like Kurata is just communist Tennisace.

[Deleted]

For someone who has BLM as their pic you sure dont seem to care about the genocide africans inflict on each other in africa do you?

Because unlike you I actually know about Africa, I lived in Africa, and I don't treat Africa like its a fucking country with 1 people 1 state 1 culture

If you can't name at least 10 countries in Africa (which most Americans can't) you should probably not talk about Africa

[Stelio Kontos]

I feel like Kurata is just communist Tennisace.

Same shit, just with a red tinge.

[Deleted]

Speak sense you nutter. The freakin' quote you posted said their studies put the total death max at 7 million less than the toted 100 million. If the total death toll was 25 million and they corrected 7 million then it would be something but 7 out of 100 is nothing. Go complain to Stormfront where the real Nazis are.

They banned me

[OrcsRLame]

Nazism vs Communism is a false dichotomy. I hate you both, and I think any time either of you put a single toe out of line you need to feel your collective assholes being perforated by the jackboots of the American military.

I find it telling that you think even the minimum number given of 65 million dead is acceptable. It wouldn't be acceptable if it was half that.

I'll take the stars and stripes over the swastika or the hammer and sickle anytime than you very much.

[anaxie]

Can we get rid of this antagonist. And im the one that gets the infracts for flamebaiting when i post. Holy fuck

[Hiricine]

Hey mass killing and starvation in the name of collectivism which was supposed to help people only killed 60% of the people that it was claimed to!

If the death toll was zero it would still be shit, because you'd have to steal everyone's stuff to achieve it. You can "no true scotsman" the crap out of these governments, but the fact remains that they can't exist without using force to contain people because all the talented people leave unless you threaten to kill them.

[Calfredd]

I'll take the stars and stripes over the swastika or the hammer and sickle anytime than you very much.

Why is all the cool-looking stuff always co-opted by the homicidal psychopaths?

[Deleted]

Hey mass killing and starvation in the name of collectivism which was supposed to help people only killed 60% of the people that it was claimed to!

If the death toll was zero it would still be shit, because you'd have to steal everyone's stuff to achieve it. You can "no true scotsman" the crap out of these governments, but the fact remains that they can't exist without using force to contain people because all the talented people leave unless you threaten to kill them.

if CCCP achieved 1st man in space and nuclear supremacy without any talented people then communism is infinitely more efficient at allocating resources and workforce than capitalism

Educate yourself

[Doctor Amadeus]

Nobody who isn't full of shit believes that nonsense of over 100 million, it can be argued onto themselves the leaders who were mostly Communist killed more than Hitler if you take out a wide variety of factors, such as Hitler literally started a god damn war that lead to a lot of the lives lost not only in Germany but everywhere else.

And as far as the Left vs Right LMFAO the right has Murdered a hell of a lot more than 100 Million through out the fucking centuries well over anything Mao or Stalin achieved combined.

But you are correct it is revisionism and bullshit by those who have an Alt-Right Nazi leaning perspective.

[Annamarine]

Good news everybody. Communism has not killed 100,000,000 people it has only killed 93,000,000 people. Carry on

[OrcsRLame]

Why is all the cool-looking stuff always co-opted by the homicidal psychopaths?

Because people full of moral disgust, (one of the primary motivators of group violence) are deeply insecure and thus spend an inordinate amount of time working on their self image. They're the political equivalent of the edgy high school kid that worries about if they're cool or not.