Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dacien]

I consider myself a conservative

There are a lot of people on this board who say that and never have anything good to say about conservatism. Quite to the contrary. Just an observation.

[beanman12345]

Reporting every meme and aoc post from that guy trying to derail the thread.

[alexw]

The problem is you manufactured some horrific Stranger Things-esque other world from what, in it's proper function, is a loving and stable environment which, with the proper moral instruction, can train children to be responsible, respectful, and productive adults.

But no, let's go with the horrifying vision you had.

Right so that's why you support the president that sleeps with hookers, cheated multiple times on multiple different wives, and isn't the slightest bit responsible, respectful, or productive in his role as president?

Like I said you are an extremist and there isn't anything you won't justify. Even when it 100% goes against your supposed stated beliefs, which you don't actually hold.

[Bdatik]

Further proof you're not sincere with your postings here and are nothing but a parrot.

[Smitzelplix]

Gallup has their complete questions here. It looks like the way they ask is by doing this:

I don't actually see any order other than Trump, so maybe they asked about more groups on other days or something. That phrasing is a bit different than others. For example, the Global Strategy Group asks:

They get 49-49 for a result. I wonder if leading with "do you approve [of Trump]" primes more people to say no straight away as where asking about the handling of the response and then asking about individuals primes for more positive sentiment.

Or it's just random variance and there's no need for handwaving. I don't know.

I'm not trying to handwave it, but I just find it so odd that there's such a huge difference between the approve and disapprove in regards to his handling of the virus, especially because on the Gallup page you linked for me, thanks for that by the way, they also show Trump's overall job approval rating and that one is more even.

[Dacien]

Further proof you're not sincere with your postings here and are nothing but a parrot.

That's actually been collecting dust in my meme folder for a while. Never had such an opportune time to deploy it.

[Acidbaron]

There are a lot of people on this board who say that and never have anything good to say about conservatism. Quite to the contrary. Just an observation.

I am mature and intelligent enough to not see my side as a tribe and i find it my duty as a member of a party to be critical of the party. As that is the only way to prevent past mistakes.

Teaparty or far right nonsense what you subscribe to is not conservatism because you can't even mention a single core value that has not been broken the last decade.
It is merely an excuse for your kind to beat up women and coloured people and justify it.

But i am not going to let this derail further, all noise no substance.

[Bdatik]

That's actually been collecting dust in my meme folder for a while. Never had such an opportune time to deploy it.

And no one was surprised you collect memes such as those. How you're still allowed to post here is beyond me.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/trum...ction-act.html

And, having successfully wasted critical days of production time, Trump is finally using the DPA to force GM to make ventilators.

My understanding was that they were already prepped to do this and just waiting on the government to contract and pay them to do this, but it's still progress nonetheless.

Glad that Trump decided to wait days to do this. That's strong, decisive leadership that clearly prioritizes the health and safety of the American people. (/s)

[Zan15]

"We don't want to be like Venzuela, that socialist country..... ...."

ooops, time to nationalize corporations because Trump can't negotiate properly !!!




https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tr...03-27?mod=bnbh

President Trump on Friday afternoon said he signed a presidential memorandum directing the government to use "any and all authority available under the Defense Production Act" to require General Motors GM, -5.27% to make ventilators for hospitals to help patients with COVID-19. The order requires GM to "accept, perform, and prioritize Federal contracts for ventilators." In a statement, Trump said, "Our negotiations with GM regarding its ability to supply ventilators have been productive, but our fight against the virus is too urgent to allow the give-and-take of the contracting process to continue to run its normal course. GM was wasting time. Today's action will help ensure the quick production of ventilators that will save American lives."

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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/trum...ction-act.html

And, having successfully wasted critical days of production time, Trump is finally using the DPA to force GM to make ventilators.

My understanding was that they were already prepped to do this and just waiting on the government to contract and pay them to do this, but it's still progress nonetheless.

Glad that Trump decided to wait days to do this. That's strong, decisive leadership that clearly prioritizes the health and safety of the American people. (/s)

TOP NOTCH NEGOTIATOR, BESTEST EVER, GREATEST DEAL MAKER!!!

[Smitzelplix]

There are a lot of people on this board who say that and never have anything good to say about conservatism. Quite to the contrary. Just an observation.

Maybe because people have been exposed too much to conservatives like you and you and people like you act more like cuntservatives than conservatives. Trump, you, and the rest of his supporters are the worst part of conservatism and have done nothing but damage your brand, the likes of you are the worst for trying to make conservatives look good, you just make them look bad.

[unfilteredJW]

There are a lot of people on this board who say that and never have anything good to say about conservatism. Quite to the contrary. Just an observation.

That's because you guys have hijacked the term and turned it into something gross.

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The problem is you manufactured some horrific Stranger Things-esque other world from what, in it's proper function, is a loving and stable environment which, with the proper moral instruction, can train children to be responsible, respectful, and productive adults.

But no, let's go with the horrifying vision you had.

It can also turn them into self interested cunts.

[Breccia]

Pelosi refers to the Senate's bill that just passed as a "down payment". Expect more to follow.

[Edge-]

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...scAFG4uQCnFalQ

So, remember how the Trump administration said the reason they didn't take test kits was because they were unreliable?

Well, they're pretty much wrong from top to bottom.

The study they cite was from China and was focused on test kits produced there.

The kits that the US rejected were produced in Germany.

The study also didn't look at the performance of the test, but rather to testing on a-symptomatic individuals.

And it was retracted within days of publishing it.

TLDR: The administrations story on why they turned down test kits is still bad.

[beanman12345]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/trum...ction-act.html

And, having successfully wasted critical days of production time, Trump is finally using the DPA to force GM to make ventilators.

My understanding was that they were already prepped to do this and just waiting on the government to contract and pay them to do this, but it's still progress nonetheless.

Glad that Trump decided to wait days to do this. That's strong, decisive leadership that clearly prioritizes the health and safety of the American people. (/s)

Omg it only took him several months to finally do something. That nobel prize will surely be his this year.

[Breccia]

In a related story, it's time for Guess the Tweeter!

"It's Trump."

Actually, no.

He did promise "America First."

"Oh, then clearly a red-blooded true patriot of...uh...okay, 'First' in what way?"

The U.S. Now Leads the World in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases

Scientists warned that the United States someday would become the country hardest hit by the coronavirus pandemic. That moment arrived on Thursday.

In the United States, at least 81,321 people are known to have been infected with the coronavirus, including more than 1,000 deaths — more cases than China, Italy or any other country has seen, according to data gathered by The New York Times.

And it is a sprawling, cacophonous democracy, where states set their own policies and President Trump has sent mixed messages about the scale of the danger and how to fight it, ensuring there was no coherent, unified response to a grave public health threat.

A series of missteps and lost opportunities dogged the nation’s response.

Among them: a failure to take the pandemic seriously even as it engulfed China, a deeply flawed effort to provide broad testing for the virus that left the country blind to the extent of the crisis, and a dire shortage of masks and protective gear to protect doctors and nurses on the front lines, as well as ventilators to keep the critically ill alive.

Not that I believe I have better reporting capability than the NYTimes, but, I do wonder if China's numbers are factual. Anyhow, take another try.

"Um..."

Too late, it's Hillary Clinton.

Naturally, the comments begin with a lot of "oh you're so happy that thousands are dying" which (a) no she's not, she's pointing out Trump is a complete failure and (b) that's what I would say too, if the incompetent businessman I voted for had killed thousands.

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Once again, it's time for Guess the Tweeter!

"...is it Trump this time?"

Actually, yes.

As usual with 'this' General Motors, things just never seem to work out. They said they were going to give us 40,000 much needed Ventilators, 'very quickly'. Now they are saying it will only be 6000, in late April, and they want top dollar. Always a mess with Mary B

Trump tweeted this while actually using the DPA to --

"I thought he already used it."

I'm sure a lot of people did, actually, but that's because Trump said he was using it when he was not. Anyhow, Trump has now officially ordered GM to make ventilators. Combined with the manufacturing contraction before the outbreak, taking a swing at Michigan, the upcoming Easter outbreak, the steel tariffs, and of course this:



How much does the UAW really want Trump for four more years? He's taking their jobs, and also, trying to murder them.

[alexw]

In a related story, it's time for Guess the Tweeter!

"It's Trump."

Actually, no.



"Oh, then clearly a red-blooded true patriot of...uh...okay, 'First' in what way?"

The U.S. Now Leads the World in Confirmed Coronavirus Cases



Not that I believe I have better reporting capability than the NYTimes, but, I do wonder if China's numbers are factual. Anyhow, take another try.

"Um..."

Too late, it's Hillary Clinton.

Naturally, the comments begin with a lot of "oh you're so happy that thousands are dying" which (a) no she's not, she's pointing out Trump is a complete failure and (b) that's what I would say too, if the incompetent businessman I voted for had killed thousands.

That total is out of date. Its 97K-100K now.

[Breccia]

That total is out of date.

Yes, but it's the very article Clinton herself linked in the tweet. Axios reports 97k cases and 1,475 deaths.

[Spectral]

I'm not trying to handwave it, but I just find it so odd that there's such a huge difference between the approve and disapprove in regards to his handling of the virus, especially because on the Gallup page you linked for me, thanks for that by the way, they also show Trump's overall job approval rating and that one is more even.

Oh, I meant me handwaving at the verbiage, wasn't trying to say you were doing something wrong. That's the only thing I can come up with that explains it since no one seems to be doing anything super weird and Gallup isn't a slipshod operation.

[Smitzelplix]

Oh, I meant me handwaving at the verbiage, wasn't trying to say you were doing something wrong. That's the only thing I can come up with that explains it since no one seems to be doing anything super weird and Gallup isn't a slipshod operation.

Oh okay, wasn't sure. But thanks again for the link and trying to explain things.