Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Beefhammer]

Imagine Obama bragging how great the COVID numbers are the day the death toll rises past 81,000.

Or worse, Obama bragging how great the COVID numbers are the day the death toll rises past 81,000, while wearing a tan suit!

And putting Dijon mustard on his hot dogs. God conservatives are pure garbage.

[Poopymonster]

What's the latest from the White House on cures of Covid-19

School lunches should now be a sandwich made of equal parts Cannon ink cartridge, Epoxy resin and white bread?

You forgot asbestos.

[Odinfrost]

And putting Dijon mustard on his hot dogs. God conservatives are pure garbage.

It was on a BURGER!!! thank you very much!

... Why was Mustardgate even a thing?

[Zaydin]

It was on a BURGER!!! thank you very much!

... Why was Mustardgate even a thing?

Because Sean Inanity is an idiot who was desperate for anything to whine about.

[Beefhammer]

It was on a BURGER!!! thank you very much!

... Why was Mustardgate even a thing?

My bad. But seriously, because they were racist and he was a dem, and it was not the norm.

[Breccia]

The WHO warns against relying on "herd immunity"

Dr. Mike Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization (WHO) health emergencies program, said the concept of herd immunity is “dangerous.”

“This idea that maybe countries that had lax measures and haven’t done anything will all of a sudden magically reach some herd immunity – and so what if we lose a few old people along the way? This is a really dangerous, dangerous calculation," Ryan said at a news briefing on Monday.

The term herd immunity is taken from veterinary epidemiology, where people are “concerned with the overall health of the herd, and individual animals in that sense, doesn’t matter,” Ryan said. “Humans are not herds.”

Ryan said the world needs to be careful using the term, as it “can lead to a very brutal arithmetic which does not put people and life and suffering at the center of that equation.”

Many people are still susceptible: Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO infectious disease epidemiologist, said there are about 90 studies that are coming out showing results of antibody surveys. Van Kerkhove said WHO hasn’t been able to “critically evaluate” all the studies, as many of them haven’t been published yet.

“What is interesting from the studies that are coming out is that many of them, across a number of countries in Europe, the United States and Asia have found a very low proportion of the people that have been tested have evidence of antibodies,” Van Kerkhove said.

The range is between 1% and 10%, she said, and that a large number of people remain “susceptible” to the coronavirus.

“That’s important when you think about what may happen in subsequent waves, or what may have as a potential resurgence,” Van Kerkhove said.

It took a few tries to find a site talking about herd immunity without talking about COVID-19 specifically, but, here's one of them:

One of the drawbacks of herd immunity is that people who have the same beliefs about vaccinations frequently live in the same neighborhood, go to the same school, or attend the same religious services, so there could be potentially large groups of unvaccinated people close together. Once the percentage of vaccinated individuals in a population drops below the herd immunity threshold, an exposure to a contagious disease could spread very quickly throughout the community.

Now obviously there's not an immunity, but that's a frighteningly accurate parallel, as demonstrated by the protests, and the church services, and the people forced back to work at infected worksites at figurative gunpoint.

[arandomuser]

any of u guys paying attention to twitter see this obamagate hashtag getting millions of russian bots retweeting it? then twitter deletes all the bots and major republicans complain they are being censored lol

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The WHO warns against relying on "herd immunity"



It took a few tries to find a site talking about herd immunity without talking about COVID-19 specifically, but, here's one of them:



Now obviously there's not an immunity, but that's a frighteningly accurate parallel, as demonstrated by the protests, and the church services, and the people forced back to work at infected worksites at figurative gunpoint.

the funniest part about the herd immunity people is they are 95% trump supporters ( i have seen some radical centrist support it mainly business and stock owners)
but heres a trump tweet talking about it

[Felya]

any of u guys paying attention to twitter see this obamagate hashtag getting millions of russian bots retweeting it? then twitter deletes all the bots and major republicans complain they are being censored lol

We had a whole fiasco with a thread about it.

[Adam Jensen]

any of u guys paying attention to twitter see this obamagate hashtag getting millions of russian bots retweeting it? then twitter deletes all the bots and major republicans complain they are being censored lol

They don't like it when their fake news gets taken away from them.

Had a friend on Facebook trying to share the Plandemic bullshit, talking about how Youtube keeps taking it down and how terrible they are because they keep censoring "the truth." Like . . . no. It's fake news. You're falling for literal fake news.

[Breccia]

heres a trump tweet talking about it

Trump's trying to blame Sweden failing to close its border and not, somehow, Sweden's refusal to have stay-at-home orders.

Considering Trump didn't even close the border with China, that's hilarious. Did I say hilarious? I meant murdered tens of thousands of people.

[alexw]

They don't like it when their fake news gets taken away from them.

Had a friend on Facebook trying to share the Plandemic bullshit, talking about how Youtube keeps taking it down and how terrible they are because they keep censoring "the truth." Like . . . no. It's fake news. You're falling for literal fake news.

This iconic quote is from David Frum - If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”

But they have not only rejected democracy they've also rejected reality.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Just curious. How long until Trump gets though all the nations to blame for his fails?

[Adam Jensen]

Just curious. How long until Trump gets though all the nations to blame for his fails?

It depends, does he count Puerto Rico as a part of the United States or a separate nation?

[Draco-Onis]

Since people are so deeply concerned with what might be potential distractions to the president I think we can all agree that he should be banned from Twitter right? I mean we don't want our president to be this distracted. Right? Right? Anyone?

I don't know would you rather he be stealing medical supplies from blue states instead? He is stuck in the white house and is looking for amusement we all know he isn't going to be working.

[Lenonis]

I don't know would you rather he be stealing medical supplies from blue states instead? He is stuck in the white house and is looking for amusement we all know he isn't going to be working.

I mean for me personally he'd be a better president if he just golfed for the rest of his tenure. But hopefully you picked up on my mocking the wailings of the right wing meme around impeachment being such a distraction Trump couldn't prepare for COVID.

[Edge-]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...gerson-russia/

Probably won't matter, but Kushner may have just slightly lied to Congress.

Regarding the Four Seasons’ meeting, Schiff asked Kushner, “Were there any other parties at the meeting other than the representatives from the UAE, yourself, Mr. Bannon, Mr. Flynn?”

“I can recall one person, yes,” Kushner said: “A guy Rick Gerson.”

“And what was his status?” Schiff asked. “Why was he at the meeting?”

“I think he’s a friend of Sheikh Muhammad,” Kushner said, referring to MBZ. Kushner added that Gerson came to the meeting as part of the UAE delegation.

Kushner’s description of Gerson was misleading at best. He was far more than merely “a guy.” According to Mueller’s final report, Gerson was a longtime pal of Kushner and an informal Trump campaign adviser who worked during the presidential transition “arranging meetings” for Kushner. This included the including the December meeting with MBZ and the Emirati delegation. By calling Gerson just a “guy” Kushner held back a crucial piece of information: Gerson was essentially a Kushner operative who was also working for the UAE.

As the New York Times explained back in 2018, “Mr. Kushner has been friends for more than a decade with Mr. Gerson’s brother Mark, a founder of the specialized research company Gerson Lehrman Group. Mark Gerson was also an early investor in Cadre, a real estate technology company founded by Mr. Kushner and his brother, Josh.”

Well...

But soon after the meeting between Kushner and the UAE, Gerson became involved in an odd episode. In January 2017, he traveled to the Seychelles, and, according to the Mueller report, Gerson was there “around the time” that Prince flew to the island nation to meet secretly with MBZ and Kirill Dmitriev, a Russian hedge fund manager who was tasked by President Vladimir Putin to reach out to Trump insiders. Last year, the House Intelligence Committee asked the Justice Department to prosecute Prince for making false statements to the committee about his meeting with Dmitriev.

Gerson was also involved in the Seychelles meeting, so it's not surprising that Kushner might have wanted to distance himself from his friend a bit.

I imagine we'll be seeing a lot more of this as folks can do deep-dives on the transcripts.

[Edge-]

Truly the snowiest of flakes.

Remember that time Obama didn't like a question, attacked a reporter, called on another reporter, decided that he didn't like her, and abruptly ended a press conference?

Neither can I.

[Beefhammer]

Truly the snowiest of flakes.

What a complete piece of shit. I'm sorry if anyone voted for him or still support him, you are also a piece of shit. Not sorry if this hurts anyone's fucking feelings. This is in no way to act as our fellow citizens are dying by the thousands daily.

[unfilteredJW]

What a complete piece of shit. I'm sorry if anyone voted for him or still support him, you are also a piece of shit. Not sorry if this hurts anyone's fucking feelings. This is in no way to act as our fellow citizens are dying by the thousands daily.

Loser president for loser people.

What a shit show.

[Beefhammer]

Loser president for loser people.

What a shit show.

Pretty much. You either turned your cheeks on your values or were stupid enough to get conned by a con man that has been conning in the public eye for 50 years.