Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Redwyrm]

The best one though? Terror attack going on, every other outlet is talking about it, CNN is talking about how Trump drinks 12 diet cokes a day with the terror attack on the bottom tagline scrolling by. . . Definitely shows where their priorities were.

Remember when Fox News spent tens of hours talking about Obama's brown suit. Selective amensia must be nice.

[VinylScratch]

Popular Vote Matters, in fact it mattered so much that Donald Trump still lies about it.



LMAO he is not Draining the Swamp in fact it is the complete opposite.



You mean Like Trump bashing America under the Obama Administration for 8 years?






The difference between them and someone like the person you're quoting is that his opinion is something called an Educated Opinion, and Trumpers hate the Educated and the Coastal Elites.

Popular Vote doesn't matter. Popular Vote hasn't been the election determining metric since the days of Madison. Popular Vote is just the consolation prize people cling to when they lost because they can't understand that people in the cities think one way, people in the rest of the country think another way. It just prevents the entire country from being held ransom by the interests of people located in seven cities. LA alone has more people than 44 of the states, that alone is why the popular vote doesn't matter and never will in this country.

The difference between them and someone like the person you're quoting is that his opinion is something called an Educated Opinion, and Trumpers hate the Educated and the Coastal Elites.

Lmao. First that isn't an educated opinion in the slightest. Second, it isn't even his own opinion so much as a blind regurgitation of someone he thinks knows what they're talking about (We call this "Appeal to Authority Fallacy"). If it was actually substantiated with anything resembling actual data and not literally "Well 538 says this!" I would agree with you, but it isn't that.

Also gee, I wonder why Trump supporters hate the coastal elites. Couldn't be anything relating to the fact they've openly expressed disdain for anyone that refuses to conform to their way of thinking. Calling anyone who refused to vote Hillary "deplorable" or anyone who has a different opinion as either "Nazi" or "Racist" certainly isn't affecting that. Perhaps if they weren't hellbent on spitting on these people every time the opportunity presented itself they'd be more welcoming.

Bah who am I kidding, the plan to call 50% of the country racist didn't work. Instead of walking it back they'll likely double down and try to call 75% of the country racist because that's for sure a winning strategy.

Anyway I'm bookmarking this so I can reference it a year later when I'm proven right just like last time. Hated the guy but said "He's retarded and a complete fuckup but he's going to win because the writing is on the wall" and sure enough he won.

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Remember when Fox News spent tens of hours talking about Obama's brown suit. Selective amensia must be nice.

It wasn't relevant to the discussion. I'm not saying it doesn't happen on the other end, hell I think Hannity was bitching forever about Dijon mustard and Obama. The fact Fox News is guilty of the same thing and acknowledging it doesn't change the fact CNN has become just as much of a propaganda rag as Fox News has. Just like how it serves no purpose to acknowledge that the Right opposed Obama at every step the minute he lost power in 2010 when addressing the fact the Left is now obstructing Trump at every step. Fact of the matter is simply this is going on, it doesn't matter who did it first, it doesn't matter that the other side does it too, what matters is that it's fucking retarded for even happening in the first place and should be condemned at every available opportunity.

[szechuan]

Popular Vote doesn't matter.

Yes it does, in fact it mattered so much Trump consistently lies about it.

Lmao. First that isn't an educated opinion in the slightest.

More educated Then Trumpers.

Also gee, I wonder why Trump supporters hate the coastal elites. Couldn't be anything relating to the fact they've openly expressed disdain for anyone that refuses to conform to their way of thinking. Calling anyone who refused to vote Hillary "deplorable" or anyone who has a different opinion as either "Nazi" or "Racist" certainly isn't affecting that. Perhaps if they weren't hellbent on spitting on these people every time the opportunity presented itself they'd be more welcoming.

Hillary was right, Trumpers are deplorable as well as Racist, Xenophobic and Side with Racists.

Bah who am I kidding, the plan to call 50% of the country racist didn't work. Instead of walking it back they'll likely double down and try to call 75% of the country racist because that's for sure a winning strategy.

Didn't work? Seemed to work fine to me, I guess Americans just need to wake up and learn about popular Racist Terms like Go Back to Your Country as well as Trump working together with a Racist Advisor like Stephen Miller.

And 50% of the country? It was just toward Trump and the Trumpers Chanting "Send Her Back"

Instead of walking it back they'll likely double down and try to call 75% of the country racist because that's for sure a winning strategy.

You mean like how Trump claimed he tried to Calm the Crowd down because of the Chant but completely lied about it then Double Downed calling those people Patriots?

Anyway I'm bookmarking this so I can reference it a year later when I'm proven right just like last time. Hated the guy but said "He's retarded and a complete fuckup but he's going to win because the writing is on the wall" and sure enough he won.

"Proven Right?"

The fact Fox News is guilty of the same thing and acknowledging it doesn't change the fact CNN has become just as much of a propaganda rag as Fox News has.

False, CNN is more factual then Fox.

Just like how it serves no purpose to acknowledge that the Right opposed Obama at every step the minute he lost power in 2010 when addressing the fact the Left is now obstructing Trump at every step.

Because Trump refuses to work with the Democrats and has been Constantly attacking and Spreading fake news about the Democrats and keeps crying about Hillary and Obama.

Obama was trying to give the Middle Class Tax Breaks as well as work together with Republicans, while they Republicans Constantly blocked him even if the Policy Obama was proposing would be beneficial toward the poor and working class because Mitch said so.

[Wyrt]

Popular Vote doesn't matter. Popular Vote hasn't been the election determining metric since the days of Madison. Popular Vote is just the consolation prize people cling to when they lost because they can't understand that people in the cities think one way, people in the rest of the country think another way. It just prevents the entire country from being held ransom by the interests of people located in seven cities. LA alone has more people than 44 of the states, that alone is why the popular vote doesn't matter and never will in this country.

In other words: "People in LA should count as less than human because they happen to live in LA."

[Shalcker]

In other words: "People in LA should count as less than human because they happen to live in LA."

They can decide LA things and their influence should be limited to that - given that they do not hold welfare of whole country in mind nor represent whole country.

[szechuan]

They can decide LA things and their influence should be limited to that - given that they do not hold welfare of whole country in mind nor represent whole country.

Every Vote Matters, except when your in LA because Votes in LA apparently don't matter.

[Wyrt]

They can decide LA things and their influence should be limited to that - given that they do not hold welfare of whole country in mind nor represent whole country.

Of course you would agree with making people in LA be less than human.

[Bakis]

While there are certainly things that could be said about China's economic behavior, it's laughable to say they started a trade war. Trump did that by unilaterally throwing around tariffs like a chimp throwing its waste, after bragging to the media that "trade wars are good and easy to win."

Depends, one could easily argue China waged economic war long before the out in the open tariff tit for tat began.
(speaking the current US/China spat. US is by no means innocent at other theatres and points in time)

[VinylScratch]

Yes it does, in fact it mattered so much Trump consistently lies about it.

Oh how silly of me for not realizing that we choose our president based on the popular vote and not on the electoral votes. . . Oh wait we don't. Which means it's pointless. All it offers is gauging the general approval of the person entering office. I don't know what's worse, the fact people realize we count electoral votes only and still think the popular vote matters, or the fact the rules have been the same for 200+ years and people still don't know how elections are done.

More educated Then Trumpers.

How ironic of you to imply Trump supporters are uneducated then make a grade school error in your grammar.

Also here's a screencap for when you inevitably try to change your post to hide the embarrassment.
https://i.imgur.com/3EGEeJ6.png

Hillary was right, Trumpers are deplorable and Racist and Xenophobic and Side with Racists.

TDS levels in that remark are off the charts! Though I guess if we're going to start painting people with wide brushes, is it fair of me to presume you're a whiny 19 year old college student who bitches about the merits of Socialism while they enjoy their overpriced coffees in a capitalist establishment?

I am impressed though with you honestly. You didn't disappoint, I figured you'd come at me with some "Orange Man Bad!" meme and you threw all the buzzwords out. You even capitalized them!

Didn't work? Seemed to work fine to me, I guess Americans just need to wake up and learn about popular Racist Terms like Go Back to Your Country as well as Trump working together with a Racist Advisor like Stephen Miller.

Yes, it worked so well that it kept Trump out of office when you called him and his supporters racist every minute of every day since he announced his candidacy and are still carrying on to this day.

All you're doing is throwing genuinely irredeemable words at people and desensitizing people to them. It's already bad enough when I hear "Racist" my first instinct is to think "Now do you actually have negative feelings towards other races or did you just piss off someone on the Left and they called you a racist?" Now what's going to happen is the word will get the shit beaten out of it and all meaning will evaporate from it. So when there is a legitimate racist and they're called out on it, nobody is going to trust the claim because the word got used freely to describe people you disagreed with politically.

Do yourself a massive favor and read the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf. There's some very interesting parallels that I would like for you to see. For someone who likes to clutch hard to the "Trump supporters are stupid" line of thinking you certainly are lacking in the common sense department.

"Proven Right?"

Oh I'm sorry, was Trump somehow not elected in line with my prediction I made when I openly opposed the guy? Nope, he's president, yeah I think that constitutes as being proven right.

False, CNN is more factual then Fox.

Honestly, with the preposterous assertions you've made I'm half tempted to believe you're LARPing as some kind of elaborate troll since you have thus far hit every stereotype in such comedic fashion it has to feel staged, or being done ironically. Regardless, I'll consider these as your actual opinions and thoughts and respond as such. Just because something aligns with your biases doesn't mean it's more factual. Given that CNN's ratings have been tanking the past three years, I clearly am not alone in thinking they've traded their credibility for mass producing tabloid spew.

Clearly they're more factual, like when they told people on air that it was illegal for them to read the Wikileaks releases, or that Trump should just concede because he was never going to win. Then they jumped on the hype train of saying it was the church kids harassing Nathan Phillips until more footage got released that showed he actually approached them and antagonized them with them only smiling in response. Jussie Smollett comes to mind because they jumped right on that one and that blew up in their faces. Though I can't see how that one failed, roaming MAGA gangs in Chicago at 2 in the morning in the dead of winter when it's in the negatives for temperature are such a commonly sighted thing that of course it happened. Oh wait, the police department found nothing supporting Smollett's claims and the LARGELY BLACK POLICE FORCE (Granted their race doesn't really matter to me, I'm just stating it because you'll likely say "Racist police force covering up actual hate crimes!") launched an investigation into the possibility it was a fake hate crime. Then he randomly gets let off the hook by Kim Foxx with no reason given. Yeah that hate crime TOTALLY happened.


Also please, again, quit trying to act intelligent when you lack the competence to know when to use "then" compared to "than."

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Every Vote Matters, except when your in LA because Votes in LA apparently don't matter.

>Claims Trump supporters are stupid
>when your in LA.

No, votes in LA do matter. Just every state deserves a say and that is achieved by the electoral college to prevent seven major cities from dictating what happens in the entire country. This was a direct response during the time of Madison when they were already seeing that the large cities were running roughshod over everyone else. If anything it's a mere acknowledgement to every state saying "Hey, you're important to us so you get a seat at the table."

Though if you could for a moment think the other way, tell me why it's fair that my state shouldn't get a say in the election process simply because we don't have a major city like LA to buff our numbers? You're all fine to talk about "but not EVERY vote in this city counts because of the electoral college" yet I guarantee you've never looked at that in reverse and seen that abolishing the electoral college nullifies the votes of the entirety of the Midwest. I already said LA has a population that is greater than 44 of the states, if you weren't biased because it favors your side you'd likely see that as a problem.

[szechuan]

Oh how silly of me for not realizing that we choose our president based on the popular vote

Yet Trump Constantly lies about it.

How ironic of you to imply Trump supporters are uneducated then make a grade school error in your grammar.

Also here's a screencap for when you inevitably try to change your post to hide the embarrassment.
https://i.imgur.com/3EGEeJ6.png

Didn't realize I was being Graded.

TDS levels in that remark are off the charts! Though I guess if we're going to start painting people with wide brushes, is it fair of me to presume you're a whiny 19 year old college student who bitches about the merits of Socialism while they enjoy their overpriced coffees in a capitalist establishment?

LMAO

Yes, it worked so well that it kept Trump out of office when you called him and his supporters racist every minute of every day since he announced his candidacy and are still carrying on to this day.

Are you suggesting people shouldn't call Trump out on his Racism because Trump is POTUS?

All you're doing is throwing genuinely irredeemable words at people and desensitizing people to them

It's Irredeemable to call Trump Racist now?

Given that CNN's ratings have been tanking the past three years, I clearly am not alone in thinking they've traded their credibility for mass producing tabloid spew.

Large Tribes trumps Factual News. Good to know.

Then they jumped on the hype train of saying it was the church kids harassing Nathan Phillips until more footage got released that showed he actually approached them and antagonized them with them only smiling in response.

They were just reporting on what was known at the time and Consistently updated the story.

Jussie Smollett comes to mind because they jumped right on that one and that blew up in their faces.

It blew up on a lot of peoples faces because Jussie Smollet lied about it.

Also please, again, quit trying to act intelligent when you lack the competence to know when to use "then" compared to "than."

Thanks for Proof reading my posts, I'll be sure to correct them next time.

No, votes in LA do matter.

No they don't, you just said Popular vote doesn't matter now you say it does?

How ironic of you to imply Trump supporters are uneducated then make a grade school error in your grammar.

Yet you're Vehemently Defending Trump while claiming you were Vocal in your Opposition against Trump while he also makes Ridiculous claims with no Scientific bases like Windmills Causing Cancer and Global Warming Doesn't exist, as well as Spreading Ridiculous Political Conspiracy Theories.

[Wyrt]

>Claims Trump supporters are stupid
>when your in LA.

No, votes in LA do matter. Just every state deserves a say and that is achieved by the electoral college to prevent seven major cities from dictating what happens in the entire country. This was a direct response during the time of Madison when they were already seeing that the large cities were running roughshod over everyone else. If anything it's a mere acknowledgement to every state saying "Hey, you're important to us so you get a seat at the table."

Though if you could for a moment think the other way, tell me why it's fair that my state shouldn't get a say in the election process simply because we don't have a major city like LA to buff our numbers? You're all fine to talk about "but not EVERY vote in this city counts because of the electoral college" yet I guarantee you've never looked at that in reverse and seen that abolishing the electoral college nullifies the votes of the entirety of the Midwest. I already said LA has a population that is greater than 44 of the states, if you weren't biased because it favors your side you'd likely see that as a problem.

So, what fraction of a human should people in LA count as? For some reason 3/5s is coming to mind, but I can't quite put my finger on why.

[Cthulhu 2020]

1) I'm not source shaming you in the slightest. I'm just stating you'd do well to be careful trusting a site that was utterly wrong regarding the election. And I hate to tell you this but popular vote doesn't matter for anything so I don't know why you brought it up. Take a look at the district voting breakdown. Or just wait a year for when you're blindsided a second time by reality when Trump coasts to a reelection.

Your reliance on RCP tells a similar story. You used it to try and provide a point, that the Democrats making a big deal out of Trump's tweets backfired. They didn't. Even on RCP, Trump's disapproval jumped more than his approval. The two stats, approval and disapproval, never add up to 100, because many people don't vote for either, but on both sides, the disapproval went up more than his approval. So again, it wasn't a backfire in the slightest.

Another thing you're assuming is that Democrats are decying Trump's tweets was a political move by Democrats to make Trump look bad, and while you may fully and wholly believe that any move Democrats make that could potentially harm Trump is all just political gaming, the same can be said every time Trump opens his mouth vomiting up insults about the left. By your own logic, it's just as if not moreso political than what went on.

Perhaps you can think for just a moment in this sole paradigm: That perhaps what Trump has been saying, what he has been doing, has been degrading the integrity of the office of the president, and the Democrats are doing all in their power to do the right thing, to stand up to a bully and a thug, and not just for more popularity. Tough concept to wrap your head around huh? That people could possibly be doing this moreso because IT'S THE RIGHT THING than just because they're trying to shit on Trump personally or boost their own numbers.

2) You're being intellectually dishonest throughout your second section. There is a big difference between "Hey our trade deals suck, and our government is a clownfiesta so we need to fix it." Whether or not he's actually draining the swamp or whatever the term for it is remains up for debate however the main point I'm trying to get across is there's a difference between "Hey our country has been making bad calls for the past few decades." and "Our country never was great and we need a complete upheaval and redesign of the country's foundation."[/quote]

You might see it like that, most of us have been living in this country for decades now, and calling America of the last few decades a bad place to live is little difference from saying that America as a nation has gone down some pretty dark paths. And make no mistake, you may believe that America has always been a righteous and just place to live, but it has only been self righteous, and the scales of justice have always been weighted in favor of the wealthy and the power as well as the majority culture. The USA has SUCKED for Native Americans, it has sucked for African Americans, it has sucked for Catholics, Jews, Asians, Irish, and other groups who have been told to "go back home". And yet if you think our country has always been great and in no need of reform from those times, I can tell you that you're delusional, and it seems you're not arguing in good faith, you're just arguing at this point to not make it look like you lost.

The general rule is if you don't like something enough to bitch about it, there are other options. I don't walk into a vegan eating establishment and demand they make me a burger to suit me. If they don't offer what I want, there are other places that will and I would be expected to go to one of those locations.

And yet not everyone has the option to make such major upheavals. Moving to another country isn't so simple as going to a different eatery. The next time you're unhappy with the direction of America, and someone goes and tells you to live in another country, rather than bitching that their logic is fallacious, I want you to think back on this thread and how easy you compared moving to other countries - to swapping eateries. Sorry bub, doesn't fly, again. You're beginning to double-think in every single point you make.

Sad thing is. You have absolutely no idea how painful it is to watch this take place and be constantly aware of "If these morons would just not respond to him he would be entirely powerless."

Trump is a bully, who will inspire motivation in the irrationals of the country regardless of whether people speak up or not. But Trump is the leader of the United States. Ignoring him is impossible, simply because every move he makes, every tweet he sends out, affects the rest of the country. I can ignore my neighbor's insane ramblings, because my neighbor is a shut in who holds no sway, no power. History has shown us that simply rolling over quietly doesn't help the odds of those who say nothing. It just makes them be viewed as weak and easily conquered. We get it, you're tired of seeing people cry about Trump. The right did astronomically more crying about Obama over even more dumb shit like his mustard choice. Did it hurt them? rofl... I'm sure you can answer that question with your "Trump will easily sail to victory" line on your own

What Trump said is literally one of the given examples under racism as defined by our government, word for word. Yet those who claim it is not racist will cry "Work on the issues, stop crying about Trump!" and when Democrats concentrate on the issues, they're screamed at and called communists. What you're utterly failing to grasp is there is no way to appease Trump's base. And letting him walk over his opponents doesn't serve to stop him, it only empowers him. Being quiet when Trump is a dick head or is racist or incompetent or a thug or a bully or a criminal just normalizes that beavior. Ignoring it just shows everyone that it's acceptable behavior. People who think Trump is not racist are not going to admit he is either way, either through silence or loud proclomation. The people who really matter are the middle voters, and the reason Trump won those are all factors like promises to change the way things work, a hope that our system would change under him, that he would shake up washington. He's changed nothing. He's proven himself powerless beyond his inflammatory tweets and inability to be diplomatic. He has broken bread and drunk wine with our enemies, and scorned our allies. He's sparked tensions among countries that we had peacefully settled with. He lives up to the name deplorable through and through.


I'm sure you genuinely believe that if we just ignored Trump, he'd go away. But that's not the case. History has shown us that that is dead wrong, and is the last thing you want to do. The Weimar Republic was the last big regime that decided to roll over and play nice in the face of a bully, and they were utterly decimated for it. So no, playing dead and pretending Trump's abhorrent words and actions don't exist won't help a thing.

I repeat, people want to improve our country, and saying they "hate America" for wanting to do so is asinine, and is especially so coming from the very people who cried that America sucks just 3 years ago. America has a long and soiled history, and you'd know we do if you'd ever cracked a history textbook, but I'm guessing you're one of those kids who slept through history class and cheated on his history lessons. Either that or a product of modern American education where we whitewash the bad parts of our history away, like Texas school boards trying to ban the mention of slavery from their text books. America has gone down a dark path, but right now, in its history, we are better than we have ever been in our history. Trump's allusion to making America great "again" was subtly genius, as it let folks insert their own meaning of when America was great. But 4 years afterwards, and those same people have not seen America return to when there were coal jobs everywhere, or when they could be utterly racist to anyone without consequence, or whatever they felt made America "Great" is not coming back. So yes, by Trump's own logic, he and every other American who voted for him does hate America, even moreso because those 4 women stated we had a soiled history, while Trump stated that it sucks right now.

Perhaps Trump, as a 1st generation immigrant, should go back to the country he came from, and improve things there, and come back and tell us how it's done. Because fuck knows he's utterly failing at it right now.

Fox News spent days complaining about Obama's suit color. They spent a week criticizing him asking for "fancy mustard", they hung onto the birth certificate issue for months. They took every little tiny ACTUAL nothingburger and blew it up in the faces of the gullible and the weak-willed. To critcize modern media for blaring actual issues, the degradation of our institution of the presidency beyond suit color and mustard choice and conspiracy theories of birth, is something quite necessary right now. What would I find if I went back in your posting history though? Let's find out.

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Ah yes, some top quality posts found. Mix in some "I'm a centrist, I'm well adjusted, I view everything from all angles and make decisions for myself and I'm just far more neutral than anyone else and my opinion means a whole lot more because I personally claim to be objective about all of this" and blend it all in with,

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post42543830

You're*

Criticism towards The Donald combined with illiteracy?

This person is most definitely a Shillary supporter.

Oops, ouch, the sting.

[Shalcker]

Every Vote Matters, except when your in LA because Votes in LA apparently don't matter.

They matter in a relation to geographic areas their districts are divided, not in relation to how many people you can squeeze into them.

[szechuan]

You're*

Criticism towards The Donald combined with illiteracy?

This person is most definitely a Shillary supporter.

[VinylScratch]

Yet Trump Constantly lies about it.

Who the fuck cares? Well, I guess clearly you do but does the popular vote determine the president? No it does not so sitting here screeching about it ALMOST THREE YEARS AFTER THE FACT is pointless. Instead of trying to contest the 2016 election results in 2019, you should try to focus on winning 2020. Which is going to come by the Democrats growing brains and playing around the electoral college.

Didn't realize I was being Graded.

Yeah, when people like to pretend they're more intelligent than others based on something utterly retarded like voting patterns I tend to deflate their oversize ego. Bottom line, if you want to believe that you're far more intelligent than Trump voters simply on what your political leanings are so be it, just make sure you don't engage in behaviors that scream the polar opposite to the world. If you don't want people to think you're a slob, hiding your slob tendencies and make sure to be very clean and orderly. It doesn't matter if you think you're clean and professional, if you exhibit behaviors associated with slobs, you will be seen of as a slob.

Guess what, it's because Trump is a Racist.

One thing I never understood. A lot of states that voted for Trump in 2016, voted for Obama in 2012. Where exactly did this racism come from? I have never been given an honest answer regarding that, I'm just told and expected to assume the country became racist in the span of four years instead of one party managed to completely alienate a large group of voters who later turned on them out of spite. Perhaps I just have a warped perception of reality from the people living in deep blue districts. I voted Obama in 2012, he did not do any favors for me and I'd argue life for me got slightly worse under him. I did not benefit from the fabled "Obama Recovery" then when I voiced that concern of "Obama's recovery didn't do anything for me, in fact it slightly harmed me in the Midwest and in 2016 his party is pushing for tax increases with the other guy offering me a tax cut." I got called a racist and a myriad of other rude names.

Perhaps instead of worrying about supposed racism of Trump because he wants a border wall and prioritizes American citizens in America, you should worry about reining in the toxic behaviors of people who think like you but are obnoxiously rude and push people away from supporting you.

yes while people should Ignore Racism in Society?

That depends, is this actual racism like a store owner chasing out a black person screaming racial slurs at him? Or is it "Oh my God, this person believes in free speech?! WHAT A FUCKING RACIST!" If it's the former everyone should condemn that behavior, similarly we should definitely address the obnoxiously large elephant in the room that is anti-white sentiment being accepted when racism is racism regardless of what race its directed at and should be treated all the same. If it's the latter, that isn't racism.

So Large Tribes trumps Factual News. Good to know.

Factual news like "Reading the Wikileaks releases is illegal"?

Every media outlet has a bias, you'd do well to address their bias and regardless of if it conforms to what you want to hear or not taking what they say with a grain of salt. For Fox News it's a bias towards neo-conservative views, yet you'll point that one out most definitely. Though you seem to like turning a blind eye to Clinton Narrative Network or MSNPC. This evidenced by the fact you just outright consider them "Factual News" when they traded that in years ago. In 2011 they used to be the most credible news network, now not so much and their declining ratings support the point I am making.

I'm at least consistent enough, and intellectually honest enough to keep the bias of the media outlet in mind when I listen to them. Sometimes CNN is actually correct, other times they are wholly incorrect. Similarly there are times where Fox News is actually correct and a lot where they are utterly wrong or lying through omission.

They were just reporting on what was known at the time and Consistently updated the story.

No they didn't, at least not when it would have mattered. They jumped on it, then when they were proven wrong doubled down on their opinions then tried to argue "Well he may have approached them but the way they behaved was antagonistic towards him!" Shit, they even tried to pull out the "HE WAS A VIETNAM VETERAN!" line then when it came out the dude never went to Vietnam they backtracked to trying to say "We said he was a Vietnam era Veteran." The dude was over here in Omaha when the war was going on and he basically was a mechanic.

To your credit they did change their tone when it just impossible for them to keep covering their ears and screaming "LALALA HE'S RACIST WE CAN'T HEAR YOU!" which happened a week after this all when every other outlet addressed the facts within a day.

Thanks for Proof reading my posts, I'll be sure to correct them next time.

That would be wise if you want to continue this charade of yours where you pretend to be intelligent. Though I'll just ream you over your random capitalization and other grammatical errors. If you want to be considered intelligent I'll hold you to the same standard everyone holds me to. You make a single mistake that they catch before you and you will be ripped apart over it.

No they don't.

Well, you said it not me. They all count though, they contribute towards that popular vote that your reverence for borders on obsession. However you may have finally realized that the popular vote is about as useful as a four year art degree.

Either way, they all count, just the fact the city is overwhelmingly blue cheapens their value since votes after you hold the majority became devalued pretty hard. Though that isn't the problem of the electoral college at all. If it were held to a popular vote, any vote past becoming the majority is useless. If one side has 2000 votes, the other has 1000, that means 999 votes are entirely pointless. That's just how voting works.

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Congratulations. You actually managed to get so upset over me disagreeing with you and calling you out on your bullshit that you peered through my post history. Not only that, you took a quote divorced of context and completely missed the utter sarcasm it was written in and are trying to post it like you got one over on me.

Should I give you the name of my reddit account so you can try to pass off the tongue in cheek posts I make on /r/The_Donald mocking the overly sycophantic of his supporters as being sincere?

Keep digging, you might also learn I used a six letter word beginning with "F" that would offend the homosexual community in high school. Wouldn't that be quite the scandal?

[szechuan]

Who the fuck cares?

As I said, Trump does.

That depends, is this actual racism like a store owner chasing out a black person screaming racial slurs at him?

did you know that "Go back to your country" is a popular phrase used by Racists?

Yeah, when people like to pretend they're more intelligent than others based on something utterly retarded like voting patterns I tend to deflate their oversize ego. Bottom line, if you want to believe that you're far more intelligent than Trump voters simply on what your political leanings are so be it, just make sure you don't engage in behaviors that scream the polar opposite to the world. If you don't want people to think you're a slob, hiding your slob tendencies and make sure to be very clean and orderly. It doesn't matter if you think you're clean and professional, if you exhibit behaviors associated with slobs, you will be seen of as a slob.

Says the person Defending Racism and Trump who spouts Fake news.

Perhaps instead of worrying about supposed racism of Trump because he wants a border wall and prioritizes American citizens in America, you should worry about reining in the toxic behaviors of people who think like you but are obnoxiously rude and push people away from supporting you.

Says the person Vehemently defending Toxic Behavior.

I'm at least consistent enough, and intellectually honest enough to keep the bias of the media outlet in mind when I listen to them. Sometimes CNN is actually correct, other times they are wholly incorrect. Similarly there are times where Fox News is actually correct and a lot where they are utterly wrong or lying through omission.

Frequency is important and Apparently you're trying to Smear CNN over 5 minutes of them talking about Trump's Coke Habit.

They jumped on it, then when they were proven wrong doubled down on their opinions then tried to argue "Well he may have approached them but the way they behaved was antagonistic towards him!"

That was before CNN found out Smollet was lying. They updated the story.

Congratulations. You actually managed to get so upset over me disagreeing with you and calling you out on your bullshit that you peered through my post history. Not only that, you took a quote divorced of context and completely missed the utter sarcasm it was written in and are trying to post it like you got one over on me.

Who said anything about being upset? You mean pretending you're not a Trump supporter when you're seemingly so adamant in defending him?

Keep digging, you might also learn I used a six letter word beginning with "F" that would offend the homosexual community in high school. Wouldn't that be quite the scandal?

You admit you're an A-Hole? Got it.

If one side has 2000 votes, the other has 1000, that means 999 votes are entirely pointless. That's just how voting works.

You mean 1000?

[Sorshen]

Who the fuck cares? Well, I guess clearly you do but does the popular vote determine the president? No it does not so sitting here screeching about it ALMOST THREE YEARS AFTER THE FACT is pointless. Instead of trying to contest the 2016 election results in 2019, you should try to focus on winning 2020. Which is going to come by the Democrats growing brains and playing around the electoral college.

Clearly Trump cares. A fucking lot. Lies constantly about it... and let's not forget the 'investigation' on votes that was silently killed.
It's nice to see the standards you people have when it comes to blatant lies in almost every aspect of this administration.



Another interesting topic these past few days - let's take a look at his lackey:

Tech firms “can and must” put backdoors in encryption, AG Barr says

The cost of encryption, he said, is measured in "victims" who might have been saved from crime if law enforcement had been able to lawfully intercept communications earlier.

"We are confident that there are technical solutions that will allow lawful access to encrypted data and communications by law enforcement, without materially weakening the security provided by encryption."

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-ag-barr-says/

What a dystopian future awaits!

[VinylScratch]

did you know that "Go back to your country" is a popular phrase used by Racists?

I've had that thrown at me a few times, know what I do? I behave like an adult and say "Nah, my family came here legally, fuck off." Though I'm sorry but if you want to flee your country, then openly complain about how much worse the place you're now in is and how great where you came from was, telling you to go back to your country is a valid criticism. Just like if my family complained about how much better Ukraine was, I'd expect someone to say "Go back to your country" then, and I wouldn't view it as racist, I'd view it as a fair point. Clearly if you don't like it somewhere and prefer your home, you should be at home.

Or is this going to magically become racist based on skin color which is in and of itself prejudiced because you change the meaning of things based on skin color?

Says the person Defending Racism and Trump who spouts Fake news.

It's funny. The only people I see call Trump "racist" are people who have made up their minds that they're going to hate him until the day they die. Even my own grandmother who absolutely despises Trump was arguing with our family over Facebook about how "Trump's tweets weren't racist, they were in poor taste and shouldn't have been said but they weren't racist."

The very fact his approval bumped UPWARD after the fall out from the "TRUMP'S RACIST TWEETS!" shitshow shows that people didn't see them as racist except for the people who have had a stick up their ass about Trump from day one. However again, the ideological Left says Trump is a racist as if this is somehow different from any other day of the week when he does something. The guy could eat out at a restaurant and tip his waiter and if the waiter was black they'd argue he paid them 3/5 what he would have paid a white waiter or some stupidity.

What you're failing to grasp is this isn't about you, or me who have clearly made up our minds. This is about the people who are still somehow on the fence which to them is coming off as "Oh look, the Left is screaming that Trump is a racist, what else is new?" Which with his approval uptick as a result tends to grant my argument a bit more credibility. Or are we going to have to go through 2020 before you realize that not everyone in this country thinks Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler?

Says the person Vehemently defending Toxic Behavior.

As with your cries of racism, you have way too small of a threshold before you attribute descriptors to words. It's also likely that I have a high threshold before I choose to define certain behaviors with specific words, though I feel that's the better approach because at least when I describe something as "racist" or "toxic" you can be certain it definitely falls into that category. You on the other hand I worry about deeming a tornado as racist if it hit the home of a minority.

That was before CNN found out Smollet was lying. They updated the story.

Again, much after the fact. You'd think for as much as CNN loves to rouse up a pitchfork waving mob within moments of something happening if they feel they can throw a political spin on it only to be completely wrong that they would begin watching themselves. If I had a hair trigger response that was always wrong, I would be much more cautious about how I react.

Who said anything about being upset? You mean pretending you're not a Trump supporter when you're seemingly so adamant in defending him?

I've been immensely critical of him. The only differences are I'm not critical of every little thing the guy does, however when he was paying lip service to gun control even though it amounted to next to nothing I was against him entirely. I was also very critical of his handling of Syria the first two months of his presidency. The other difference is I've kind of learned that the guy has a pattern with handling things. When he pulled his "big red button" remark to North Korea I was with most others in saying "this orange fuckwad is going to put us into a war with North Korea" but the minute Kim Jong Un backed down and was open to chats I quit barking up that tree because clearly the guy saw something I wasn't.

Unfortunately a lot of our country isn't graced with basic pattern recognition so they keep doing the same stupid shit, getting the same result and being confused. Like I said with CNN endlessly rousing up pitchfork waving mobs only to be proven wrong, or any time Trump talks shit to another country leader on Twitter people think a war is going to break out despite every other time it never going anywhere.

You admit you're an A-Hole? Got it.

You really don't want to play purity test with me. You can dig back far enough in anyone's words or life and find bad things they either did or said. Or are you actually going to try and tell me you never once said a word offensive to a group of people? I call bullshit on that one and promise you've said a word you can spell if you rearrange the letters in "ginger" at least once in your life.

You mean 1000?

I understand that you have difficulty grasping the electoral college's purpose, but I never anticipated you not understanding how voting works to any degree. So, if the vote came to be 1000-1000, that would be a tie. 1001-1000, one side holds the majority and therefore wins, yes? 1002 is the same result. As is 1003. So considering you only need 1001 to hold the majority, 2000-1001 = 999. That means 999 of those votes are useless.

[szechuan]

I understand that you have difficulty grasping the electoral college's purpose, but I never anticipated you not understanding how voting works to any degree. So, if the vote came to be 1000-1000, that would be a tie. 1001-1000, one side holds the majority and therefore wins, yes? 1002 is the same result. As is 1003. So considering you only need 1001 to hold the majority, 2000-1001 = 999. That means 999 of those votes are useless.

you said

If one side has 2000 votes, the other has 1000, that means 999 votes are entirely pointless. That's just how voting works.

You were originally suggesting that Minority Votes Win, the 1000 votes are pointless. Popular Vote Doesn't Matter, now it does?

I understand that you have difficulty grasping the electoral college's purpose

Says the person using bad examples, the Popular Vote is pointless in the Electoral, hence the 1000 votes votes are useless, having the majority is pointless in a country that prides itself as a Democratic Country.

I've been immensely critical of him.

No you haven't. Stop Lying. You've been immensely Critical of people who Hate Trump and Leftists. You also listen to the cultist Molyneux and spouting popular Conservative talking points as well as Defending Veritas even though they blatantly Lie. Also Wikileaks has been wrong before.

I've had that thrown at me a few times, know what I do? I behave like an adult and say

Are you suggesting that accusing someone of being Racist when they're being Racist is not being an Adult?

The very fact his approval bumped UPWARD after the fall out from the "TRUMP'S RACIST TWEETS!"

It has always went up and down and it only went up 1 point, Congrats!

As with your cries of racism, you have way too small of a threshold before you attribute descriptors to words.

Says the person seemingly also ignoring Trumps toxic past behavior





It's PC to get offended by Racists, Got it.

[Machismo]

LMAO you said



You were originally suggesting that Minority Votes Win, the 1000 votes are pointless. Popular Vote Doesn't Matter, now it does?



No you haven't. Stop Lying. You've been immensely Critical of people who Hate Trump and Leftists. You also listen to the cultist Molyneux and spouting popular Conservative talking points as well as Defending Veritas even though they blatantly Lie. Also Wikileaks has been wrong before.











Are you suggesting that accusing someone of being Racist when they're being Racist is not being an Adult?



It has always went up and down and it only went up 1 point, Congrats!



Says the person seemingly also ignoring Trumps toxic past behavior

He clearly means he was immensely critical of him when talking to his girlfriend in Canada.