[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Gorsameth]

2nd dec and nothing agreed, but still no sign of uproar in UK ?

hoping for miracles or what is UK thinking ?

I imagine most of the general public has resigned itself to the idea that there will be a no-deal exit.
Heck I question if it would even be possible to get a deal through the EU before the holiday's when I assume they will recess.

[Xarkan]

I imagine most of the general public has resigned itself to the idea that there will be a no-deal exit.
Heck I question if it would even be possible to get a deal through the EU before the holiday's when I assume they will recess.

Would Boris stick to an agreement if one was reached?

[Gorsameth]

Would Boris stick to an agreement if one was reached?

I have repeatedly expressed my belief that Boris doesn't want a deal and actively steered into a no-deal so I guess no? But he won't let it get to a deal in the first place.

[dribbles]

Those Brexiteers you are attempting to absolve of blame were the ones that weren't prepared to accept a more moderate Brexit. They are the ones that are still, to this day, not prepared to accept anything but the kind of deal that the EU can't, and won't give us. If we end up with no-deal, it will be their fault. If we end up with a shitty deal that gives us no "sovereignty" (whatever the fuck that means) and a worse position than we had before, that will also be the fault of the Brexiteers. Because they will be the ones who forced us to try and bluff when the opponents knew full well we had bugger all in our hands.

Those are the choices it will come down to; either we put a bullet in the EUs foot that has to go through our own brain first (no-deal), or we accept a position as a rule-taker with literally no say in the rules (BINO). The first choice breaks the GFA, the second will break up the UK by creating a border between Great Britain and NI. Both shitty outcomes, but that's what Brexit comes down to; a group of clowns that understand nothing forcing a stupid choice on a country that never understood what they were voting for.

Lions led by donkeys? Nope, morons led by fuckwits.

The consequences of your actions hit you in the face in less than a month. Nowhere to hide then.

Tsk tsk so much bitterness.

Many remainers will owe their lives to brexiteers like me as the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock says today, and I agree with him in this clear and ultimate brexit benefit...

Brexit helped the UK become the first country in the world to have a clinically authorised coronavirus vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-urged-...ctory-12148983

Good job we left and don't have to wait for authorisation from the EU's EMA isn't it? How many eurochums must perish from Covid before the EU allows their citizens to get vaccinated?

Don't be so ungrateful.

[Pro-Violence]

Tsk tsk so much bitterness.

Many remainers will owe their lives to brexiteers like me as the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock says today, and I agree with him in this clear and ultimate brexit benefit...

Brexit helped the UK become the first country in the world to have a clinically authorised coronavirus vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-urged-...ctory-12148983

Good job we left and don't have to wait for authorisation from the EU's EMA isn't it? How many eurochums must perish from Covid before the EU allows their citizens to get vaccinated?

Don't be so ungrateful.

A vaccine for which the research and development has been mostly funded by the EU and which will be at least twice as cheap to purchase for EU residents than for UK residents because of it. Just an important detail.

[Gorsameth]

and the EU is set to approve it in a few days I believe.

[Demolitia]

and the EU is set to approve it in a few days I believe.

Pfizer's is set for aporoval on the 29th. Moderna's on january 12th.

[Acidbaron]

A vaccine for which the research and development has been mostly funded by the EU and which will be at least twice as cheap to purchase for EU residents than for UK residents because of it. Just an important detail.

It is going to be free and approval of the vaccine is just one part you also need the production and distribution capability.

Another added bonus for living in an EU nation regarding the corona induced crisis;

clicky

Belgium will receive the first instalment of €2 billion in loans from the European Commission’s ‘SURE’ programme, Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said on Monday.

SURE is a temporary programme of low-cost loans to the Member States that are spending a lot more money to save jobs as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, von der Leyen said in an interview with VRT.

Belgium is entitled to €7.8 billion in low-interest loans, thanks to this programme, which can reach up to 100 billion.



Good luck with the UK recovering from the financial aspect of it on their own.

[Xarkan]

It is going to be free and approval of the vaccine is just one part you also need the production and distribution capability.

Though since people are idiots and will do christmas (and new years) as usual it would have been better if a vaccination program could have started before christmas.. to at least mitigate the amount of elderly dying early in the new year

Ideal was never realistic obviously

[Fuiking]

Though since people are idiots and will do christmas (and new years) as usual it would have been better if a vaccination program could have started before christmas.. to at least mitigate the amount of elderly dying early in the new year

Ideal was never realistic obviously

rumors abound that them at-risk groups will start recieving there vaccinations in my country starting the 4th, non at risk groups will start in August.. apperently.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Tsk tsk so much bitterness.

Many remainers will owe their lives to brexiteers like me as the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock says today, and I agree with him in this clear and ultimate brexit benefit...

Brexit helped the UK become the first country in the world to have a clinically authorised coronavirus vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-urged-...ctory-12148983

Good job we left and don't have to wait for authorisation from the EU's EMA isn't it? How many eurochums must perish from Covid before the EU allows their citizens to get vaccinated?

Don't be so ungrateful.

I hate to intrude on another one of your fact free rants, but you do realise that we haven't actually left yet? Anything that we've done in 2020 related to Covid as a soon to leave the EU country, we could have done just the same as an EU country. This is another "blue passport" style lie from the Brexiteer anti-truth brigade. Telling us that Brexit is wonderful for letting us do something that we were perfectly free to do anyway.

Something something old dog, something something new tricks. Mind you, if you know your audience is stupid enough to fall for this nonsense, why not just wheel it out again?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Tsk tsk so much bitterness.

Many remainers will owe their lives to brexiteers like me as the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock says today, and I agree with him in this clear and ultimate brexit benefit...

Brexit helped the UK become the first country in the world to have a clinically authorised coronavirus vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-urged-...ctory-12148983

Good job we left and don't have to wait for authorisation from the EU's EMA isn't it? How many eurochums must perish from Covid before the EU allows their citizens to get vaccinated?

Don't be so ungrateful.

A vaccine developed by two Turks in Germany and manufactured in Belgium is supposed to be a "brexit win", huh?

[tehealadin]

A vaccine developed by two Turks in Germany and manufactured in Belgium is supposed to be a "brexit win", huh?

Anything they think is good is a Brexit win in their alternate universe. If scientists in China found an outright cure of AIDS, they would find a way to claim it as a win for Brexit.

[Santti]

A vaccine developed by two Turks in Germany and manufactured in Belgium is supposed to be a "brexit win", huh?

Not to mention that UK hasn't actually left yet.

[dribbles]

Pfizer's is set for aporoval on the 29th. Moderna's on january 12th.

No rush then. How many EU lives will that inefficiency and delay cost? If only you weren't in the EU you could have the vaccine tomorrow.

As the leader of the House of Commons says today in not so many words :- Three cheers for Brexit!

[Krakan]

Not to mention that UK hasn't actually left yet.

I'm not convinced they will. Their own political parties are constantly trying to undermine. I honestly think it only came to a vote originally because they were certain it would fail and they could put the issue to rest.

[Demolitia]

No rush then. How many EU lives will that inefficiency and delay cost? If only you weren't in the EU you could have the vaccine tomorrow.

As the leader of the House of Commons says today in not so many words :- Three cheers for Brexit!

Call it inefficiency, we call it proper scrutiny, which you failed to do and gave a provisional approval for the sake of ... "win"? We'll let you do the crash test. We've had a year of covid, 2 weeks are not going to make a huge difference. But congratulations

[UnifiedDivide]

A vaccine developed by two Turks in Germany and manufactured in Belgium is supposed to be a "brexit win", huh?

When you have nothing, you'll grasp at anything.

[Demolitia]

Anything they think is good is a Brexit win in their alternate universe. If scientists in China found an outright cure of AIDS, they would find a way to claim it as a win for Brexit.

Apparently they seem to be willing to skip the scientific review for the regulatory approval, so yeah. They remind me of the "first" comments on youtube.

[omeomorfismo]

Tsk tsk so much bitterness.

Many remainers will owe their lives to brexiteers like me as the UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock says today, and I agree with him in this clear and ultimate brexit benefit...

Brexit helped the UK become the first country in the world to have a clinically authorised coronavirus vaccine.

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-urged-...ctory-12148983

Good job we left and don't have to wait for authorisation from the EU's EMA isn't it? How many eurochums must perish from Covid before the EU allows their citizens to get vaccinated?

Don't be so ungrateful.

did u ever read that link?

Dr June Raine from the UK's medicines regulator confirms the jab's approval was made using provisions under European law.

the fucking subtitle...