The Brexit aftermath thread

[Mihalik]

I just bumped into this article.

How strange that all the Brexit media that spent weeks and months hailing the Australia trade deal forgot to mention that the trade deal still hasn't been signed.

https://www.politico.eu/article/aust...-with-no-deal/

Industry insiders with an ear into the negotiations told POLITICO the two sides were still working through tariff rates for different cuts of meat, as well as other political differences. The aim is to get the deal into force during summer 2022.

All this despite of the fact that the UK has seemingly made every imaginable concession to the Australians. The Aussies apparently already cleaned house. That makes me wonder just what exactly could they be asking that the UK couldn't bend over backwards for.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-in...-uk-trade-deal

[Huehuecoyotl]

I just bumped into this article.

How strange that all the Brexit media that spent weeks and months hailing the Australia trade deal forgot to mention that the trade deal still hasn't been signed.

https://www.politico.eu/article/aust...-with-no-deal/



All this despite of the fact that the UK has seemingly made every imaginable concession to the Australians. The Aussies apparently already cleaned house. That makes me wonder just what exactly could they be asking that the UK couldn't bend over backwards for.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-in...-uk-trade-deal

So we don't get as good a deal when we are negotiating without the weight of the EU behind us? Well, nobody could have predicted this. This is very much a surprise to me.

Better be careful we don't start talking down the UK. Brexit is such a delicate little snowflake that even a few people saying bad things could cause it to break.

[Edit] My god, reading this is hilarious. So they want freedom of movement, the very thing we left the EU to remove. And they want an lamb quota larger than the entire EU had for year 1, which then rises substantially year after year. Brexit; taking back control then giving it all away again to the first country we need to negotiate with.

Side splitting. I'm already looking forward to the dribbles mental and linguistic gymnastics required to paint this as a good thing.

[Mihalik]

[Edit] My god, reading this is hilarious. So they want freedom of movement, the very thing we left the EU to remove. And they want an lamb quota larger than the entire EU had for year 1, which then rises substantially year after year. Brexit; taking back control then giving it all away again to the first country we need to negotiate with.

There are also major environmental and regulatory concession. Which would inherently also mean that the lamb that would be imported into the Uk would also be cheaper.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Lie. Projection. Projection with guilt. Projection. Lie

Just summarising the latest burner post, in case anyone is interested.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Someone needs to remind our burner that there is a difference between a person and a persona. I'd never refer to the former as an "it", but for the latter "it" is a perfectly reasonable description. His trolling persona on this forum can be referred to as an "it" without any reflection on what I think of them as a person (which is "laughable", if you were wondering).

[Mihalik]

Someone needs to remind our burner that there is a difference between a person and a persona. I'd never refer to the former as an "it", but for the latter "it" is a perfectly reasonable description. His trolling persona on this forum can be referred to as an "it" without any reflection on what I think of them as a person (which is "laughable", if you were wondering).

As I pointed out in a deleted post.

"It" is a perfectly valid word for referring to a person in certain contexts.

Like when I pick of the phone and say-

-Hey it's Mike.... I'm not "dehumanizing" myself.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Well, for all the shit that dribbles and our resident burner keep spouting about how popular Brexit is, cracks seem to be appearing....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...brexit-295935/

When a Daily Mail poll shows a massive win for Remain, you know the rats are deserting the ship. Pretty soon you won't be able to find anyone willing to admit to voting for it. They'll all be pretending the fucking disaster was nothing to do with them.

[Elegiac]

Well, for all the shit that dribbles and our resident burner keep spouting about how popular Brexit is, cracks seem to be appearing....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...brexit-295935/

When a Daily Mail poll shows a massive win for Remain, you know the rats are deserting the ship. Pretty soon you won't be able to find anyone willing to admit to voting for it. They'll all be pretending the fucking disaster was nothing to do with them.

*gestures*



No sympathy, and no forgiveness. I give it a decade before the UK tries reapplication, and even less than that for a permanent customs union.

[dribbles]

Well, for all the shit that dribbles and our resident burner keep spouting about how popular Brexit is, cracks seem to be appearing....

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...brexit-295935/

When a Daily Mail poll shows a massive win for Remain, you know the rats are deserting the ship. Pretty soon you won't be able to find anyone willing to admit to voting for it. They'll all be pretending the fucking disaster was nothing to do with them.

Brexiteers deal only in facts. There is no chance for decades, by which time the EU will fail to exist, of any vote to rejoin.

We are out and life here is now so much better.

Don't believe me? At the soon to be next General Election, and the re-election of our Brexit Boris happens by increased majority thanks to upcoming boundary changes and support in the UK for the great success of Brexit, look how many prospective MP's dare even stand on a ticket to rejoin the EU. You will be able to count them on one hand, and so much fun to watch, as they go down the road of electoral suicide.

Face facts Huey, you re-joiners are in the same position as Brexiteers were in the 1970's. See you in 2060 for that re-join referendum, if there is still an EU.

[postman1782]

Brexiteers deal only in facts. There is no chance for decades, by which time the EU will fail to exist, of any vote to rejoin.

We are out and life here is now so much better.

Don't believe me? At the soon to be next General Election, and the re-election of our Brexit Boris happens by increased majority thanks to upcoming boundary changes and support in the UK for the great success of Brexit, look how many prospective MP's dare even stand on a ticket to rejoin the EU. You will be able to count them on one hand, and so much fun to watch, as they go down the road of electoral suicide.

Face facts Huey, you re-joiners are in the same position as Brexiteers were in the 1970's. See you in 2060 for that re-join referendum, if there is still an EU.

So far, you haven't presented any facts. So far the only website you have used are literally the biased bullshit that even they are losing the narrative while the rest of the UK media is showing reality.

[dribbles]

ISo far, you haven't presented any facts. So far the only website you have used are literally the biased bullshit that even they are losing the narrative while the rest of the UK media is showing reality.

And the next re-join the EU referendum in the UK is tabled for when? Can we even start the tick-tocks yet eurochums? Nope. Sometime never ever is the correct answer.

That is an irrefutable fact, the only one that matters, I present to you my friend.

[Calfredd]

And the next re-join the EU referendum in the UK is tabled for when? Can we even start the tick-tocks yet eurochums? Nope. Sometime never ever is the correct answer.

That is an irrefutable fact, the only one that matters, I present to you my friend.

An Australian trying to tell actual British that their facts don't count next to his "facts".

[Fuiking]

Brexiteers deal only in facts. There is no chance for decades, by which time the EU will fail to exist, of any vote to rejoin.

We are out and life here is now so much better.

Don't believe me? At the soon to be next General Election, and the re-election of our Brexit Boris happens by increased majority thanks to upcoming boundary changes and support in the UK for the great success of Brexit, look how many prospective MP's dare even stand on a ticket to rejoin the EU. You will be able to count them on one hand, and so much fun to watch, as they go down the road of electoral suicide.

Face facts Huey, you re-joiners are in the same position as Brexiteers were in the 1970's. See you in 2060 for that re-join referendum, if there is still an EU.

You sound like a broken propagandist Dribbles. Its sounds fake as fuck.

[Calfredd]

@postman1782 Surprised you're even bothering since their posts and possibly your posts are just going to get snipped when the mods wake up.

[postman1782]

@postman1782 Surprised you're even bothering since their posts and possibly your posts are just going to get snipped when the mods wake up.

I don't like ignorance, especially something so easily factcheckable.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Brexiteers deal only in facts. There is no chance for decades, by which time the EU will fail to exist, of any vote to rejoin.

Makes a statement about only dealing in facts. Follows it with two opinions.

So as well as not perceiving reality, you don't understand the meaning of words either?

Daily Mail readers are turning against Brexit dribbles. Daily fucking Mail readers. Once enough people abandon this sinking ship, your darling Boris will shift position so fast it will make your head spin. We'll be back in a Norwegian deal before you know it. And after we get that the debate will start; "wouldn't we be better as a full member than we are on the fringes like this?"

You tried, you failed. The only question remaning is whether you'll be around long enough to see the final vestiges of your failed experiment vanish.

[Barzotti]

You know shit hits the fan when even the Daily Mail readers are turning against Brexit. And the most obvious outcome would be a Norwegian deal: paying for access to the EU market, without a say in the decisions, and being a vassal country. A deal 100% worse than the previous deal inside the EU. So much for being strong and independent.

UK can't even get an advantageous deal with Australia nor New Zealand because BoJo doesn't have any leverage, even though the Oceanic countries represent an almost insignificant part of the UK trade. The New Zealand deal effect on the Britain's GDP? Between 0,01% and -0,01%, woosh!

[Veggie50]

For all the brexiteers talk about wanting sovereignty, there’s always this to consider:

https://www.cqc.org.uk/sites/default...0-%20FINAL.pdf

Your precious sovereignty led your NHS to give out blanket DNACPR orders to groups of people, without consultation or even informing them.

DNACPR stands for Do Not Attempt CardioPulmonary Resuscitation.

“Jeesh man, that breaches several human rights articles… but you said blanket statements… to whom?”

People with a (learning) disability and people living in elder care facilities.

“Holy #%*^#% shit”

So on the whole your sovereign decisions end up in eugenetics. Now I’m not saying there are some parallels to a certain political movement of national socialistic persuasion, but it the shoe fits…

[dribbles]

Makes a statement about only dealing in facts. Follows it with two opinions.

So as well as not perceiving reality, you don't understand the meaning of words either?

Daily Mail readers are turning against Brexit dribbles. Daily fucking Mail readers. Once enough people abandon this sinking ship, your darling Boris will shift position so fast it will make your head spin. We'll be back in a Norwegian deal before you know it. And after we get that the debate will start; "wouldn't we be better as a full member than we are on the fringes like this?"

You tried, you failed. The only question remaning is whether you'll be around long enough to see the final vestiges of your failed experiment vanish.

I fear you are clutching at straws, considering not even Norway want the Norway deal.

‘The British have a better deal than the EEA’

https://www.thelocal.no/20201229/nor...-than-the-eea/

Nope, can't even tick tock for that.

[Barzotti]

I fear you are clutching at straws, considering not even Norway want the Norway deal.

‘The British have a better deal than the EEA’

https://www.thelocal.no/20201229/nor...-than-the-eea/

Nope, can't even tick tock for that.

You linked an article prior to the effective Brexit that happened in 2021. Let's look at the situation from october 2021, no? The past nine months have showed us how difficult it was for British farmers or fishermen to export their products in the EU. And between the brexiters wishful thinking before the effective Brexit and the harsh reality, there's a significant gap.

I'm sure you do have the same article from october 2021 after the Brexit happened and not something before the effective Brexit, right? Right?